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HandmadeCon 2016 - History of Software Texture Mapping in Games

15K views · Sep 25, 2017 · 1:22:13 · 2 HN recommenders · 5 mentions · discussed 2021–2022

A HandmadeCon 2016 panel where Chris Hecker, John Miles, Sean Barrett and Chris Green give an oral history of software texture mapping in 90s games.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN recommends it for first-hand accounts of how early 3D games like Doom worked within tight hardware limits.

“Some interesting related stuff in this talk”HN comment, 2021

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RecommendscmaNov 2021

“Some interesting related stuff in this talk”

Veterans discuss software texture mapping optimizations in 90s games.

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Some interesting related stuff in this talk: HandmadeCon 2016 - History of Software Texture Mapping in Games this video I think they say at one point it went from 14 to 8 instructions, and then the Duke Nukem guy (Ken Silverman) got it down to around 4. Quake would do something where it only issued a divide every 8 pixels or something, and then only interpolate when inbetween and the out of order execution on pentium pro (I think?) would let it all work out.

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RecommendsraszDec 2021

“Wolfenstein and Doom are 100% correct because Carmack 'cheated' by deciding to never look down/up or draw slopes :-)”

Pioneers explain how Doom and Wolfenstein avoided heavy math.

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From the horses mouths (minus Abrash/Carmack) 'HandmadeCon 2016 - History of Software Texture Mapping in Games' this video Wolfenstein and Doom are 100% correct because Carmack 'cheated' by deciding to never look down/up or draw slopes :-) so whole game is drawn with 'lines of constant Z'. Or as they put it Chris Hecker (Microsoft/Maxis/etc): that's a classic Carmack thing which is like Fuck those general problems, Im gonna solve this other problem perfectly John Miles (ORIGIN/Miles Design/etc): Its all about not doing the math, we were still at a point in time when you won by not doing the math

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Cites itthoughtFrameDec 2021

“Those teams built up that kind of tacit knowledge like in this video about software texture mapping”

Example of teams accumulating tacit knowledge about texture mapping.

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I guess Michael Abrash's Graphics Programming Black Book fits the bill, though no amount of literature replaces getting your hands dirty in late 80s-early 90s level hardware+software. However, while you can do this, you're still missing the things you learned by being part of a team (of the kind which there are probably in the low hundreds right now). How much I'd give to be part of Nintendo or Id software or some other era-appropriate team figuring out how to make the early big 3D games like Mario 64 or its contemporaries on the PSX. Of course you can bust out an SDK and try it out but it probably won't be the same. Those teams built up that kind of tacit knowledge like in this video about software texture mapping this video

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Cites itraszDec 2021

“doom doesnt operate on pixels, it operates on constant-z planes (lines)”

Source for how Doom rendered with constant-z planes.

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- it didnt, at least not Intel x86 MHz - doom doesnt operate on pixels, it operates on constant-z planes (lines), you can scale linearly inside those (cheap 2D operation). How Carmack did it? He cheated by deciding to never look down/up or draw slopes :) 'HandmadeCon 2016 - History of Software Texture Mapping in Games' this video Chris Hecker (Microsoft/Maxis/etc): that's a classic Carmack thing which is like Fuck those general problems, Im gonna solve this other problem perfectly John Miles (ORIGIN/Miles Design/etc): Its all about not doing the math, we were still at a point in time when you won by not doing the math

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Cites itcorysamaApr 2022

“gathered a group of devs from different games who all wrote some of the first software rasterization 3D games.”

Devs of early software 3D games recall working without references.

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Garret’s buddies at HandmadeCon gathered a group of devs from different games who all wrote some of the first software rasterization 3D games. The general theme was “We had no idea what we were doing. There were no references!” this video

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