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The Best FSD System In China! 1 Hour Drive Using Huawei Qiankun ADS 3.2 Installed In Avatr 11

412K views · Feb 1, 2025 · 1:06:02 · 0 HN recommenders · 4 mentions · discussed 2025–2026

Out of Spec Reviews takes a one-hour drive in an Avatr 11 running Huawei's Qiankun ADS 3.2 driver assistance system in China, billed as the best FSD-like system there.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN cites it as a real-world look at Huawei's lidar-based driver assistance when comparing against Tesla FSD.

“Here's the Out of Spec guys riding around on it in China for an hour”HN comment, 2025

What Hacker News said 4

Cites itlossoloJun 2025

Shows Huawei driver assistance in China rivaling Tesla FSD.

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> Tesla is the only one with consumer FSD technology. That's not true anymore, at least in China. this video

in “Tesla sales decline in Europe for fifth straight month as rivals gain ground” · view on HN
Cites itslawJul 2025

Review claiming Huawei beats Tesla, both level 2.

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Huawei is better than Tesla according to 'Out of Spec'. Both are level 2. Waymo is level 4. Completely different animal this video

in “How Tesla is proving doubters right on why its robotaxi service cannot scale” · view on HN
Cites itDennisPSep 2025

“Here's the Out of Spec guys riding around on it in China for an hour”

One-hour ride in Huawei's lidar-based system in China.

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Huawei has a self-driving system that uses three lidars, which cost $250 each (plus vision, radar, and ultrasound). It appears to work about as well as FSD. Here's the Out of Spec guys riding around on it in China for an hour: this video

in “Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on promise of autonomy” · view on HN
Cites itlossoloJan 2026

Test comparing other makers' FSD to Tesla's.

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> where is BYD at with FSD? I'm not sure about BYD, but other car makers have FSD that works like Tesla's FSD, and in some cases it even outperforms it. Here is a test from a few months ago: this video > - The Chevy Corvette Stingray? Say what you want, but the high end ICE sports cars have an appeal of their own… The world is moving to EVs, ICE will mostly be collectors cars in 20 years in developed countries. As to Chinese sports cars Xiaomi SU7 Ultra: "June 2025, an unmodified SU7 Ultra (with a maximum 1,139 kW (1,527 hp; 1,549 PS) power) lapped the Nürburgring in a hair under 7 minutes, 5 seconds. It is not only faster than the fastest Tesla Model S Plaid and Porsche Taycan versions, but also faster than a Rimac Nevera, one of the most high-end and expensive electric sportscars." U9 link is a supercar produced by BYD, fastest in the world. "It achieved a maximum speed of 496.22 km/h (308.33 mph) at Germany’s ATP Automotive Testing Papenburg, making it the fastest car in the world and breaking the record previously held by the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ at 490.484 km/h (304.773 mph)"

in “BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal” · view on HN