364K views · Mar 18, 2021 · 9:16 · 0 HN recommenders · 9 mentions · discussed 2021–2022
Chuck Cook films Tesla FSD Beta 8.2 attempting unprotected left turns across forward-facing traffic, using a drone for a third-person view. Eight tests are shown with the car's on-screen visualizations.
Why Hacker News points people here: Used mostly as evidence of FSD Beta's limitations, for example pulling out in front of fast traffic.
“at 4:00 the cars are all yellow when they shouldn't be”
Visualization showing cars colored yellow at 4:00.
In the video I actually do see the yellow outline if I really turn up the resolution, it's super faint though, hard to tell if it is there the whole time. Easier to see in this video , at 4:00 the cars are all yellow when they shouldn't be.
“This is not my video”
Beta software making left turns.
FWIW, the upcoming software which has about two thousand beta testers is making left turns. this video This is not my video
“Full Self Driving" looks dangerous and probably shouldn't be on the road”
FSD shown as dangerous and not road-ready.
Well, here's a different video. "Full Self Driving" looks dangerous and probably shouldn't be on the road: this video
“It repeatedly tries to pull out in front of cars going 45+ miles an hour”
FSD repeatedly pulls out in front of fast cars.
This [0] is much worse than the video in the article, IMO. It repeatedly tries to pull out in front of cars going 45+ miles an hour, in some cases giving the driver very little time to stop it. For level 5 (what Elon keeps claiming they will have very soon), they need to be able to go tens of thousands of miles without a crash-avoiding human intervention, not 10 minutes. [0] this video
“Tesla would kill you half the time making this unprotected left turn.”
Contrasts Tesla's unprotected left turn with Waymo.
Watch this entire video: this video Tesla would kill you half the time making this unprotected left turn. Waymo can make unprotected left turns and have never killed or injured anyone or even bent metal in this situation. :P It's not a particularly challenging left turn. And the goal is to kill you less than .0001% of the time making left turns. Yes, Waymo tries to avoid them in route planning, but it still takes them if necessary.
“makes the present limits rather clear”
Makes limits of Tesla self-driving clear.
It's a win. But-- if it's just driving freeway miles and lanekeeping and doing basic collision avoidance-- there's a lot of cars doing that and Tesla is in first place but not strongly differentiated from GM, etc. Other cars can provide you this "less fatiguing road trip" experience. If you want it to actually drive and be able to remove your attention, well, something like this this video makes the present limits rather clear.
“Videos of Tesla fails, mostly from 2021”
Listed among Tesla fail videos.
Videos of Tesla fails, mostly from 2021: [1] link [2] this video [3] link [4] link [5] link Other things: [1] link [2] a video which was taken down from youtube link [3] link [4] link . Bonus material: [1] link Edit: For saner info regarding self-driving, A.I etc: [1] link [2] link [3] link [4] book to read, suitable even for laypeople >> 'Artificial Intelligence: A Guide for Thinking Humans by Melanie Mitchell IMO everyone should read that book Edit 2: Children of the Magenta Line link
“Videos of Tesla fails, mostly from 2021”
Listed among Tesla fail videos.
Copy-pasting a glorious Tesla comment from yesterday: Videos of Tesla fails, mostly from 2021: [1] link [2] this video [3] link [4] link [5] link Other things: [1] link [2] a video which was taken down from youtube link [3] link [4] link . Bonus material: [1] link For saner info regarding self-driving, A.I etc: [1] link [2] link [3] link [4] book to read, suitable even for laypeople >> 'Artificial Intelligence: A Guide for Thinking Humans by Melanie Mitchell Perils of autopilot: Children of the Magenta Line link
“Tesla’s safety claims are wildly overstated”
Example of FSD's shortcomings against safety claims.
What videos would those be, like this one? this video Tesla’s safety claims are wildly overstated, as documented here: link In aggregate, Tesla’s FSD is demonstrably not up to the task. “Limited driver assist” is a much more fair assessment of what their software is actually capable of than the “full self driving” branding.
