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Etak Navigator Tour & Demo

19K views · May 9, 2016 · 31:35 · 0 HN recommenders · 3 mentions · discussed 2018–2024

Raw 1991 home footage of a working Etak Navigator, the 1985 in-car navigation system that predated consumer GPS. It shows the system's cassette-based map display and explains its augmented dead reckoning using wheel sensors.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited as a rare look at how pre-GPS car navigation worked, especially its dead reckoning with turn-based recalibration.

“it looked almost like having a Vectrex in your car that ran maps off a standard cassette tape.”HN comment, 2020

What Hacker News said 3

Cites itSlansitartopFeb 2018

“It used dead reckoning and landmarks (turns) to periodically re-calibrate the fix.”

1980s Etak system recalibrating dead reckoning with turns

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Here's the system I was talking about. It used dead reckoning and landmarks (turns) to periodically re-calibrate the fix. This was all done with 80s technology. link Live demo: this video > Cheap dead reckoning sensors have so much error and drift right now as to be mostly useless for driving. I don't think anyone's saying that it would be used for the driving part (i.e. car control), just as an option for orienting the car in the wider world beyond its direct perception.

in “Nobody Wants to Let Google Win the War for Maps All Over Again” · view on HN
Cites itdoleJan 2020

“it looked almost like having a Vectrex in your car that ran maps off a standard cassette tape.”

Mid-80s Etak in-car map system

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In the late-80's to mid-90's, DeLorme Street Atlas USA was one of the best consumer street map solutions. I remember using the DOS version (3.5" floppies, IIRC) on an amber gas plasma Toshiba T3200SX [1] "laptop" or some similar model with the advantage of being able to print out turn-by-turn directions pre-trip but without a GPS module which came later in the early-mid 90's. Surprisingly, I can't find any images of the old monochrome versions on a quick search but you can imagine the jump to the full color CD-ROM Windows 3.1 versions just a few years later. Mapquest took over in the late 90's. I mention all this just because OP's article mentions the mid-80's Etak system [2] (Nolan Bushnell!) which I'd never heard about and had to look up... and it looked almost like having a Vectrex in your car that ran maps off a standard cassette tape. Pretty wild. [1] link [2] this video

in “Turn-by-turntables: How drivers got from point A to point B in the early 1900s” · view on HN
Cites itneilvApr 2024

“1991 home video demo of an Etak, in a custom housing”

1991 home video demo of an Etak

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1991 home video demo of an Etak, in a custom housing: this video (Bet they didn't think at the time that techies of the future would be watching it in 2024 on the ubiquitous global data network.)

in “A curious phenomenon called 'Etak'” · view on HN