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What prevents the poor from reaching the middle class? | VISION TALKS

37K views · Jul 10, 2014 · 18:10 · 2 HN recommenders · 4 mentions · discussed 2014–2024

Megan McArdle's AEI Vision Talk 'Capital and Poverty' argues that social and financial capital work differently in low-income communities, and that this explains barriers to reaching the middle class.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited to explain why poor people's seemingly irrational financial decisions can rationally protect their social safety net.

“poor people make seemingly dumb decisions because if they don't help their social network when it comes knocking”HN comment, 2024

What Hacker News said 4

RecommendshumanrebarDec 2014

“some people value social capital above other forms of capital and that can be a rational thing to do”

Social capital as rational choice for the poor

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A different theory is that some people value social capital above other forms of capital and that can be a rational thing to do: this video

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Recommendse63f67dd-065bFeb 2024

“poor people make seemingly dumb decisions because if they don't help their social network when it comes knocking”

Poor people's seemingly dumb decisions preserve their social safety net

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> This reflects a false belief that people who live in poor neighborhoods are less compassionate. In fact research suggests that people living in poverty tend to be more compassionate towards each other than rich people are toward the impoverished. It's comforting for wealthier people to hold this belief, because it makes us feel less bad about our own lack of compassion. From what I recall, its less that the poor are more compassionate, instead they participate in _reciprocal altruism_ as a form of insurance against further loss. I remember this talk this video -- poor people make seemingly dumb decisions because if they don't help their social network when it comes knocking, they're in effect _cutting themselves off_ from said network. The middle class is more insulated from this effect because those with emergency savings don't often need to borrow $500 because of a broken car or need to house their recently homeless sister and children, so capital can accumulate more easily.

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Cites ityvdriessJul 2020

“The author links to a talk on how this still plays a role in poor communities today”

Talk on how social capital still matters in poor communities

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For readers jumping to the comments: Any surplus went into the social capital (dowry etc), distributing it inside the countryside as non-fungible untaxable wealth. Putting a year's saving or even surplus into easily transportable goods like money would be a really dumb thing to do, as it was incredibly risky (dumb) thing to do. The author links to a talk on how this still plays a role in poor communities today: this video

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Cites itgruezFeb 2022
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> There's something I remember being told (or maybe read about too) I heard it from a youtube video this video