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Buy, Borrow, Die: How America's Ultrawealthy Stay That Way

476K views · Jun 8, 2021 · 1:53 · 1 HN recommender · 5 mentions · discussed 2021–2022

A short ProPublica video explaining the "Buy, Borrow, Die" strategy wealthy Americans use to cut taxes. They borrow against appreciating assets instead of selling, and the gains are never taxed at death.

Why Hacker News points people here: Shared as a clearer explanation of the tax loophole than the accompanying article.

“This video does a better job at explaining the tax loophole”HN comment, 2021

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Recommends29athrowawayJun 2021

“This video does a better job at explaining the tax loophole”

Clearer explanation of the tax loophole than the article

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A better way to structure the article would be: - explain how much tax evasion took place - explain how the tax evasion happens - who is doing it - what to do next. Only then, compare the situation to the average person. Everyone knows how much they pay in taxes themselves. This video does a better job at explaining the tax loophole: this video

in “IRS records reveal how the wealthiest avoid income tax” · view on HN
Cites itdakial1Jun 2021

“They never sell, they borrow over that invested money and pay 3% (interest) instead of 37% (income tax)”

Explains how the wealthy borrow against assets instead of selling

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this video They never sell, they borrow over that invested money and pay 3% (interest) instead of 37% (income tax)

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Cites itdrobertJun 2021

“In the video attached to the article they mention the rich loan money and live off that.”

Says rich borrow and live off loans

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In the video attached to the article they mention the rich loan money and live off that. They don't explain how they are paying that loan. this video I felt the article was not very inspiring since it emphasised the tax the rich pay in relation to their wealth not their income. Which is irrelevant. Of course they are not going to spend all their wealth and pay tax on it.

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Cites ittoomuchtodoOct 2021

Cited for the buy, borrow, die strategy

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It's more like the wealthy's "buy, borrow, die" strategy [1] without the cumbersome "buy" part. Japan's debt to gdp is almost 200% as the population decline continues. Confidence won’t evaporate until the market determines productivity can’t meet the yield bought. Somebody is going to be left holding the bag, but it ain’t anybody investing today. [1] this video

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Cites ittoomuchtodoApr 2022

“Tax the proceeds at loan origination”

Cited for the buy, borrow, die loophole

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Tax the proceeds at loan origination (1099-whatever filed by whomever is providing the cash based on pledged assets). How you pay the loan back if the collateral declines in value is your problem (or the bank’s problem, depending on the amount in question). High level, it closes a financial engineering loophole (buy, borrow, die [1]). The taxable event is when you get liquid, and a loan is liquidity. The tax code requires a patch, that’s all. [1] this video

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