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Margaret Thatcher - "They'd rather have the poor poorer."

285K views · Apr 8, 2013 · 2:34 · 0 HN recommenders · 4 mentions · discussed 2016–2023

A short clip of Margaret Thatcher in Parliament in 1990 arguing that economic reforms benefited everyone even as the rich-poor gap widened. She says her opponents would rather the poor be poorer if it meant the rich were less rich.

Why Hacker News points people here: Commenters link it as a shorthand for an argument about inequality, absolute versus relative prosperity, quoting her line in threads about taxes and wealth.

“Thatcher had famously summarized the inequality argument here”HN comment, 2023

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Cites itcftSep 2016

“Socialists would rather have the poor poorer provided the rich were less rich”

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As Margaret Thatcher said:"Socialists would rather have the poor poorer provided the rich were less rich" this video

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Cites itcryptonectorJan 2019

“Margaret Thatcher made my comment better than I could.”

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this video EDIT: I would make my comment more substantial, but Margaret Thatcher made my comment better than I could.

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Cites itCrazyPyroLinuxAug 2022

“He'd rather the poor were poorer, as long as the rich were less rich.”

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I'm reminded of Margaret Thatcher's response to this: "He'd rather the poor were poorer, as long as the rich were less rich."[1] Every ethical dollar earned is a byproduct of value creation. Maybe you meant something more like "as long as he's not ripping off his customers," but otherwise that's an odd thing to say in response to someone who makes good money but is still looking for side jobs. [1] this video

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Cites itutopcellJan 2023

“Thatcher had famously summarized the inequality argument here”

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My argument was that in absolute terms, the 1% already pays ~100x more than the median tax payer, which seems pretty close to stating that the median tax payer reaps the benefits of modern civilization essentially for free. Regarding inequality, this can't be the metric for taxation policy. Would you rather the 1% pay all taxes but inequality be 100x worse ? Are you optimizing for a better standard of living for the median, or for imposing the psychotherapeutic sentiment of "if I can't make that much money, nobody should" ? Capitalism has been around for a long time. The argument of "whatever they’re paying, it’s not enough [..]" has already been played out. In the 70s UK, investment income was taxed at a rate of 98% (after an inflation-adjusted income of 221k). It didn't work. Thatcher had famously summarized the inequality argument here: [1]. [1] this video

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