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Why We Should Stop Using JavaScript According to Douglas Crockford (Inventor of JSON)

737K views · Jun 1, 2023 · 2:16 · 0 HN recommenders · 5 mentions · discussed 2023–2024

A short video built around Douglas Crockford, creator of JSON, saying JavaScript is a flawed language and that developers should eventually move on from it. It is a brief commentary clip with little technical detail.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN users cite it to show that even Crockford, once a JavaScript evangelist, has soured on the language, though some find it thin on substance.

“I don't think crockford likes JS anymore”HN comment, 2024

What Hacker News said 5

Cites itrebelidealistJul 2023

Crockford criticizing JavaScript.

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Can't we move on from JS for the backend? It is a brittle and confusing langugage. Author of JS the good parts: this video

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Cites itthrowat2341Dec 2023

“I, like Douglas Crockford, am completely done with JavaScript”

Crockford saying he is done with JavaScript.

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It's too late for me. I, like Douglas Crockford, am completely done with JavaScript [1]. HTMX, LiveView, WASM, Dart, ClojureScript, Kotlin, ScalaJS, Dioxus -- There are lots of options folks. We don't need to surrender to the tyranny of JavaScript. [1] this video

in “VanJS: A 0.9KB JavaScript UI framework” · view on HN
Cites itthoasjdfwasdMay 2024

“I don't think crockford likes JS anymore”

Shows Crockford no longer likes JS.

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Lua has something similar called metatables [1]. I don't think crockford likes JS anymore [2] and seems to be hacking on C now [3]. [1]: link [2]: this video [3]: link

in “Prototypal Inheritance (2008)” · view on HN
Cites itChrisArchitectAug 2024

“Actual video (2023)”

Points to the actual video instead of the reddit thread.

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Actual video (2023): this video Instead of the reddit convo, some more discussions here: Last week: link Last year: link link

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Criticaljt2190Aug 2024

“He doesn’t really say much other than it could be better”

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Reddit thread on “Why We Should Stop Using JavaScript According to Douglas Crockford (Inventor of JSON)” (2023, video 2’15”) this video He doesn’t really say much other than it could be better if we used “clean” operating systems and “clean” programming languages, whatever that means.

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