“See this 3 minute presentation fragment about the”
Short clip about the 'Do not use JSLint for Evil' clause.
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See this 3 minute presentation fragment about the "Do not use JSLint for Evil" license clause: this video
Using JSLint For Evil
15K views · Jan 20, 2011 · 2:45 · 2 HN recommenders · 6 mentions · discussed 2013–2023
A three-minute clip in which Douglas Crockford explains why he allowed the JSLint reference implementation to be used for evil. It recounts the license clause and how corporate lawyers reacted.
Why Hacker News points people here: Linked in licensing threads as a short, funny story about the 'no evil' clause and IBM's request for an exception.
“This reminds me of Douglas Crockford's classic story about the JSLint license”HN comment, 2020
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“(2:44 and worth it)”
Short clip on Crockford's no-evil license and the situations it created.
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David Crockford puts a "don't use this for evil" clause in the license for all software he releases, creating some interesting situations: this video (2:44 and worth it)
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That doesn't work at all if it is the actual wording. For point 1 you can find warranty wording in any number of open source or creative commons licenses. For the second, objectionable requires a definition. For example many would consider the US drone assassination program objectionable, and hence tar US companies and people with the same brush. Does that mean US companies and people can use the software? How many steps do they have to be removed (eg is providing the payroll software to the defense contractor a problem?) link this video Because of copyright laws, people can do virtually nothing with software. If you actually want to give the user freedoms - see link - then pick a well known free software license since it will have already addressed all these issues.
“This reminds me of Douglas Crockford's classic story about the JSLint license”
Crockford's story about the JSLint no-evil license clause.
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This reminds me of Douglas Crockford's classic story about the JSLint license containing a "The software shall be used for Good, not Evil" clause: this video
“he had to make an amended licenses for corporations (namely, IBM)”
Crockford made an amended license for IBM's lawyers.
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That's what I was talking about. Crawford said in a talk he had to make an amended licenses for corporations (namely, IBM), who had lawyers that needed to be able to get around the evil restriction. this video
“IBM lawyers absolutely know that they can be fairly accused of using JSLint for evil.”
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When you know that history, IBM asking for an exemption to the JSLint license becomes less funny. Watch this video (2 minutes) to hear the story from the developer's point of view. Then consider how many totalitarian states today are using IBM computers to track their population. The developer might not realize it, but IBM lawyers absolutely know that they can be fairly accused of using JSLint for evil.