BobbyBroccoli's first of two long documentaries about Hwang Woo-suk, the South Korean scientist who faked human cloning results. It tells the story of the scandal that shook a country.
Why Hacker News points people here: Recommended as a gripping account of scientific fraud and the history of cloning research.
Wars don't just appear out of thin air. There were a lot of incentives for countries to engage in war. Cloning doesn't really benefit anyone and doing cloning requires a ton of funding and grants and ethics boards reviews. If you're interested in the history of human cloning (and where that field of research is trending towards), I'd recommend watching this video [1]. Full human cloning is somewhat pointless however the research has lead to innovations in stem cell research which does have real benefits for things like organ transplants. [1] this video
RecommendsmbayeDec 2023
“Documentaries about daring scientific fraud”
Documentaries about daring scientific fraud.
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Bobby Broccoli: link Documentaries about daring scientific fraud such as "The man who tried to fake an element" link or "The man who faked human cloning" this video Or the epic tale of political intrigue in "The $21,000,000,000 hole in Texas" link about the The Superconducting Super Collider that never was.
Cites itourafJul 2023
“There's also a case related with cloning (which includes stem cell research) and massive fraud in South Korea 20 or so years ago.”
Case of cloning fraud in South Korea.
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It is as bad in medicine, if not worse. Recently a very influential paper about alzheimer was pulled[1] because of almost everything you said, but for biology instead: data fabrication, overestimating numbers, etc. There's also a case related with cloning (which includes stem cell research) and massive fraud in South Korea 20 or so years ago.[2] It's a complicated matter: research is a beacon of light on top of a mountain of failed experiments. And not even the government will fund a mountain of failures if your shining discovery at the end can't bring returns to society (or shareholders) in greater value than what you took. And the pharmaceutical industry never settled for small results. And, unlike ML, it's much harder to test things as an outsider (you can hate the hype, but openAI, hugging face and all these "open" language models makes it much easier to learn, test, tweak and improve things without a master's degree in data engineering.). It's a grimy area to research even as a pastime. There's a lot of recorded practices both in research and production that makes you question how low can a person go for money 1: link 2: this video
Cites itevrimoztamurJul 2023
“the next BobbyBroccoli special like the one on Hwang Woo-suk, the man who faked human cloning”
Documentary on Hwang Woo-suk's faked cloning.
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...or the next BobbyBroccoli special like the one on Hwang Woo-suk, the man who faked human cloning ( this video ). Not claiming the researchers of LK99 are intentionally faking their results, by the way!
