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Breakdown of the Pentagon UFO videos with Mick West

366K views · Apr 30, 2020 · 24:46 · 2 HN recommenders · 8 mentions · discussed 2021–2024

Astronomer David Kipping of Cool Worlds talks with Mick West to break down the three declassified Pentagon UFO videos. They explain the footage through camera artifacts, glare, and perspective effects.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN recommends it as the boring, convincing debunking of the Gofast, FLIR and Gimbal videos, which commenters say ended UFO hype for them.

“Mick West's breakdowns of the Pentagon UAP videos was the nail in the coffin of this era of UFO hype for me.”HN comment, 2023

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Strongly recommendsresoFeb 2023

“Mick West's breakdowns of the Pentagon UAP videos was the nail in the coffin of this era of UFO hype for me.”

Shows the Pentagon UFO videos are sensor glare and perspective

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Mick West's breakdowns of the Pentagon UAP videos was the nail in the coffin of this era of UFO hype for me. this video These were supposed to be the smoking gun evidence. UFO believers inside the DoD and as high up as US Senators fought for years to get them declassified. As soon as they were public, they were all quickly identified as sensor glare, bokeh, or mis-understood perspective. More generally this showed how easy it is to misinterpret the information being put out by complex sensors like FLIR, even the operators do it.

in “As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP)” · view on HN
RecommendslwansbroughJan 2021

“This whole thing has a very boring, very likely answer described in this video”

Camera and perspective quirks explain the Pentagon UFO videos

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This whole thing has a very boring, very likely answer described in this video: this video Essentially, there are a few different perspective/camera quirks coming together in these videos which can (apparently) trick even well trained pilots.

in “US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator” · view on HN
RecommendsresoFeb 2023

“Gofast, FLIR and Gimbal all have very compelling explanations”

Compelling explanations of Gofast, FLIR and Gimbal videos

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Gofast, FLIR and Gimbal all have very compelling explanations: this video Mick West has reported on this all over the place.

in “As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP)” · view on HN
Cites itgodelskiJan 2021

Mick West's analysis of the Pentagon UFO videos

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With the time thing, that would suggest that these events are uncommon. In that case it would be reasonable that the gov doesn't know what's going on either and that these visitors aren't here for the long hull. Of course, assuming these are visitors and not natural or man made phenomena. But I'll wait for the cell phone events. You suggest it should happen within my lifetime. As was posted in another comment I'm going to post this video. And don't dare claim someone hasn't looked up the links and articles just because they don't agree with you. Do it if they demonstrate that they didn't (there's a big difference and the former is going to piss someone off and is against HN's good faith rules). this video

Cites itsimonhMay 2021
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It doesn't take incompetence to make a mistake, any of us can make mistakes even in things we're highly competent in. Optical artefacts are particularly difficult to account for. Take Go Fast for example, they're highly competent experienced aviators, but they still very clearly completely misidentified what, in hindsight, is obviously a bird. Clearly if trained operators can make a mistake like that, other mistakes are possible, so you can't just discount the possibility as absurd. this video I can easily see someone thinking an image is of a near object when it's actually a far object, and we know for a fact that highly trained operators can make terrible mistakes using complex tracking equipment.

in “UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low” · view on HN
Cites itjasonwatkinspdxJun 2021

“The videos have been explained”

Explanation of the Pentagon UFO videos

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The videos have been explained: this video The pentagon released them because they were getting sick of FOIA requests from the mob of people the To The Stars folks have been rallying. GAO is currently reviewing the contracts granted to those folks as well.

in “I’m a Physicist Who Searches for Aliens. U.F.O.s Don’t Impress Me” · view on HN
Cites itnotJimJun 2021

“A lot of these videos have already been debunked as being visual artifacts from the cameras or parallax.”

Visual artifacts and parallax explain the footage

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A lot of these videos have already been debunked as being visual artifacts from the cameras or parallax. this video

in “No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal” · view on HN
Cites itljfOct 2024
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Interesting Gimble is in there - much of what is 'interesting' about this video has been debunked by Mick West: link this video