A clip of Frank Zappa appearing on CNN's Crossfire in 1986, debating censorship and copyright. Zappa argues his position against record labeling and content restrictions.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN commenters invoke it in free speech and censorship debates as a classic example of a articulate defense of free expression.
“I would say that something like Frank Zappa on censorship [1] [2] is much more suited to HN discussion than this link.”HN comment, 2012
Zappa on censorship, supporting the commenter's free speech argument.
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I don't have a platitude for why we need to defend speech. My only argument has ever been that my icky speech today is your essential speech tomorrow. By the time you think something needs to be censored is beyond the line of where you could still rationally discuss the idea. If you think the government should suppress an idea the only reason must be that you personally cannot reasonably consider the concept. Banning a subject because you cannot fathom talking about it means you must be willing to impose your internal and personal morals on others, by force if necessary. this video
Cites itjoydeepdgJul 2012
“I would say that something like Frank Zappa on censorship [1] [2] is much more suited to HN discussion than this link.”
Zappa on censorship suggested as better HN fodder.
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On the contrary, anything unscientific is great. I am a musician myself and I find proof based scientific discussions very claustrophobic at times. All I am trying to say is, in this case, the article is a bunch of opinion from a Jazz musician about fellow Jazz musicians and bands. How does this fit in with other HN threads? I would say that something like Frank Zappa on censorship [1] [2] is much more suited to HN discussion than this link. [1] link [2] this video
Cites itihswAug 2013
“The comparison is loose, but it's eerily reminiscent.”
Zappa's Crossfire debate parallels the free speech argument.
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The article has a very interesting statement: > A website is speech. It is not a bomb. There is no imminent danger it creates and no provider has an affirmative obligation to monitor and make determinations about the theoretically harmful nature of speech a site may contain. Replace website with song and provider with record label , and you'll have a very familiar conversation from nearly 30 years ago: Frank Zappa on Crossfire, this video The comparison is loose, but it's eerily reminiscent.
JokesneakNov 2011Full comment
A conference I can't hear dick jokes at is a conference I don't want to attend. I'll just leave this here: this video
