2.2M views · Apr 7, 2010 · 38:05 · 0 HN recommenders · 5 mentions · discussed 2020–2022
Al Jazeera's full unedited version of the WikiLeaks 'Collateral Murder' footage from a US military helicopter cockpit, showing a 2007 Baghdad attack that killed about a dozen people, including two Reuters journalists.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN cites it as primary evidence of US conduct in Iraq and as the leak most associated with Julian Assange's prosecution.
“What does happen is that a van stops to help and they blast it and the kids inside.”HN comment, 2020
“What does happen is that a van stops to help and they blast it and the kids inside.”
Footage of a US helicopter attack in Iraq
When referencing Youtube videos you have to use a timestamp, mang. this video Also what you're saying doesn't happen. What does happen is that a van stops to help and they blast it and the kids inside. Which is obviously a horrible thing to do.
“(The Collateral Murder video, warning: war crimes)”
Leaked footage of US war crimes in Iraq
That's the argument for having a defensive force, not what we have. EDIT: Since y'all are downvoting: this video (The Collateral Murder video, warning: war crimes)
“Note, pretty grim material.”
Leaked grim footage of Iraq helicopter attack
Sounds like you're referring to the Wikileaks leaked 'Collateral murder' video [0]. Note, pretty grim material. 0: this video
“broadcasting US war crimes evidence in Iraq”
Evidence of US war crimes published by Assange
> In the US where free speech is protected, those who made various claims and conspiracy theories about the September 11 attacks (Bush did it! Israel did it! The CIA did it! etc.) didn’t get locked up or murdered Only, for some reason the free speech protection did not help Assange from being prosecuted and his life being destroyed for broadcasting US war crimes evidence in Iraq [1]. The same could be said about your prior mentioning of the Battle of Grozny. There were real terrorist groups in Grozny that had to be eliminated, and in a 2007 Baghdad there was nothing but a false pretence. [1] the infamous US taxpayer-funded "keep shooting" "collateral damage" done in Iraq: this video
“helicopter pilots crack jokes while shooting explosive rounds into the windshield of a van full of children”
Footage of helicopter pilots firing on a van in Baghdad
I cannot see how one can claim that the US invasion of Iraq was less barbaric than the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. First of all, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died. The US practiced torture, as we all found out when the pictures of Abu Ghraib came out. The US worked with Shiite militias that conducted ethnic cleansing and torture on a massive scale. The US put down uprisings in places like Sadr City, Najaf and Fallujah with full urban ground invasions. As a result of the invasion, Baghdad turned into a warzone for years, and the city's religiously mixed neighborhoods were ethnically cleansed (or however you refer to its religious equivalent). Iraq became a byword for failed state. Finally, I would tell anyone who talks about "values" to take a look at the "Collateral Murder" video, in which helicopter pilots crack jokes while shooting explosive rounds into the windshield of a van full of children.[0] Only two people have gone to jail for that: the soldier who leaked the video (Manning) and the guy who published it (Assange). 0. this video
