1.2M views · Jun 13, 2025 · 24:14 · 1 HN recommender · 3 mentions · discussed 2025
WSJ's Joanna Stern interviews Apple's Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak at WWDC 2025 about Siri's delays, AI strategy, the Liquid Glass redesign in iOS 26, iPad versus Mac, and tariffs.
Why Hacker News points people here: Commenters cite it as a rare, pointed grilling of Apple executives over why Siri fell behind.
“This is a rare and fantastic grilling of Apple by a journalist over Siri, with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak. It's a masterpiece.”HN comment, 2025
“This is a rare and fantastic grilling of Apple by a journalist over Siri, with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak. It's a masterpiece.”
Journalist grills Apple execs Federighi and Joswiak over Siri.
This is a rare and fantastic grilling of Apple by a journalist over Siri, with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak. It's a masterpiece. this video
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