14K views · Aug 25, 2006 · 9:59 · 1 HN recommender · 8 mentions · discussed 2007–2024
A roughly ten-minute demo of Microsoft's Intentional Programming research system, showing its editor and an unusual way of working with code. It is the first of two clips cut from a longer video.
Why Hacker News points people here: Commenters cite it as an early example of projectional or intent-based programming tools when discussing alternatives to text-based code.
“Here are a couple of demo vids from well over 10 years ago”HN comment, 2016
“intentional programming from Charles Simonyi”
Interesting ideas for reading and writing programs.
There are some interesting ideas that could help with reading and writing programs: from Bret Victor: link and intentional programming from Charles Simonyi: link this video
“I am interested in seeing what happens when you apply intentional programming to web”
I am interested in seeing what happens when you apply intentional programming to web this video idea is to open up your search engine so that anyone can submit code for domain specific query entry, search, ranking, and presentation of results. Moreover, such code submissions would compete with each other, with more effective ones rising in popularity in their respective domains. Unlike APIs that are currently available, the submissions made by users here would make up the core feature set of the service.
“This is sort of like intentional programming, but applied to”
I wonder if it would make sense to make a search engine platform where (more technical) users can submit code for domain specific query entry, search, ranking, and presentation of results. Moreover, such code submissions would compete with each other, with more effective ones rising in popularity in their respective domains. Unlike APIs that are currently available, the submissions made by users here would make up the core feature set of the service. This is sort of like intentional programming, but applied to this video
“Here are a couple of demo vids from well over 10 years ago”
It's a shame the Intentional Software crew have been nearly silent for the a decade or so they've been in business. They've been doing projections-of-ASTs based programming for a very long time. They bragged a lot about it early on and I haven't heard much of anything since. Here are a couple of demo vids from well over 10 years ago: this video link Here's an interview from 2009 where one of the crew members talks about an annotated S-expression as the core code representation (IIRC, it's been a long time since I listened to it) link
“the system didn't look too much different from its earlier incarnation at Microsoft in the '90s”
For the curious: it's difficult to find that particular demo on the web now, but the system didn't look too much different from its earlier incarnation at Microsoft in the '90s: this video
“Check out this old video on intentional programming by Microsoft”
This idea has been around for ages. Check out this old video on intentional programming by Microsoft: this video
“Charles Simonyi's Intentional Software was doing that back in the days of Windows NT”
Charles Simonyi's Intentional Software was doing that back in the days of Windows NT this video But, they stayed insular and enterprise right up until Microsoft bought them back. We mortals barely got to see or hear anything about it. I heard one podcast interview of a developer there who said they basically represent the code as an s-expression tree with a bunch of metadata on each node.
“It looked really neat.”
Intentional Software was working on a system like this many years ago: this video Part 2: link You can project your programs into different views and add lots of metadata about the program and use that data in various contexts. Also extends to source control and other use cases. It looked really neat. I'm not sure what happened to it.
