43K views · Sep 10, 2016 · 6:23 · 3 HN recommenders · 12 mentions · discussed 2017–2019
A six-minute explainer from Undefined Behavior on range (score) voting. It follows an earlier video on Arrow's Theorem and shows how range voting seems to satisfy the criteria Arrow's Theorem says no ranked system can.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN commenters link it in voting-reform discussions as a concise explanation of range voting versus other systems.
“The following video covers 'Range Voting' in relation to Arrow's Theorem”HN comment, 2017
“I'll post some videos from people smarter then me”
Voting system videos.
Elections were (IMO) meant to be bloodless revolutions. its just the 1% has captured both primary political parties. Also, the flawed first past the post electoral system discourages competition (IMO to keep it cheaper for the 1% to own the whole process). I'll post some videos from people smarter then me: link link this video link link link
“The following video covers 'Range Voting' in relation to Arrow's Theorem”
Covers range voting in relation to Arrow's Theorem.
You might like 'undefined behavior'. The following video covers 'Range Voting' in relation to Arrow's Theorem: this video
“Relevant videos (IMO)”
Relevant to changing how we vote.
Elections are supposed to be bloodless revolutions. If you can't effect change through the electoral system, then the non violent solution is to revolutionize how we vote. Relevant videos (IMO) First Past The Post Voting - link Range Voting - this video Single Transferable Vote - link Alternative Vote - link Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - link Bonus video This video will make you angry - link
"For example my desire as a buyer would be to purchase an awesome steak for about a dollar but the failings of our society have again let me down." "Lobby" congress to right these wrongs perhaps? link this video
Perhaps because powerful people don't want to find a solution; The powerful is exactly who is represented in our flawed electoral system: http//i.imgur.com/Uc6kX8G.jpg link this video link
“Range voting (i.e. 0-5 rating system) satisfies all the criteria.”
Range voting satisfies Arrow's criteria.
Arrows theorem is misleading because it only applies to rank order systems. Range voting (i.e. 0-5 rating system) satisfies all the criteria. [0] So yes, democracy is theoretically possible. [0]: this video
Explains range voting alongside other systems.
"bad electoral system." First Past The Post Voting - link Range Voting - this video Single Transferable Vote - link
Explains range voting alongside other systems.
First Past the Post voting: link Range Voting: this video Single Transferable vote: link Do away with voting booths, attach voting to everyone's tax forms. Give everyone a $5 tax credit for voting. People who don't do taxes can go to a public library and just pull the voting portion off of the tax forms there and mail it in. Break up corporations in every sector of the economy and either resell the chunks back to the market or turn them all into 100% worker owned and operated co-ops.
Explains range voting alongside other systems.
Some tweaks I'd make: Corporate structure: link Electoral system: What we have now - link Range voting - this video Alternative vote - link Single transferrable vote - link Marx wrote about the theory of societal evolution; That there are certain phases civilization must pass through. The communism he wrote about would have to be very far down the road, 100+ years (IMO). This does not mean people sit back and do nothing, we still would have to work towards it. (Most) Capitalists profit from the status quo, and work to keep in place systems to maintain their spot in the hierarchy. Thus the antiquated electoral system in the USA, and the top heavy power/pay structures of business. TL;DR: give the average person more of a say/choice in the world they live in (politics/workplace), and they will find their way forward. (IMO)
Explains range voting alongside other systems.
The real problem is both main stream political parties don't represent around 45% of the country. First Past The Post Voting- link Range Voting- this video Single Transferable Vote - link Alternative Vote - link Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - link
Alternatives to current voting.
Reform the electoral system to achieve the representation we all deserve. The electoral system we use now: link Alternatives: this video link link link We can start introducing these to everyone at the state and local level to build momentum for electoral reform at the federal level. A good old fashioned general strike until we get what we need from our "representatives".
Explains range voting alongside other systems.
How important is this privilege if I can maliciously control how you vote? Now imagine the good we can do with real electoral reform (Democrats idea of repealing citizens United is a meager start, but weak lip service to real reform) What we have now - First Past The Post Voting - link Range Voting - this video Single Transferable Vote - link Alternative Vote - link Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - link Electoral reform is just step 1, something we can all come together for. Something no one could possibly be against. How about if I control who can be voted for? Of course it matters - link bonus video: This video will make you angry - link
