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The Machine to Build the Machines - NeXT

25K views · Apr 9, 2011 · 6:39 · 0 HN recommenders · 5 mentions · discussed 2016–2025

A NeXT, Inc. promotional video showing its highly automated factory and the manufacturing of the NeXT Cube, including automated circuit board assembly.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN cites it as evidence of early lights-out manufacturing and of Steve Jobs's factory automation roots in threads on automation and US manufacturing.

What Hacker News said 5

Cites ittpowellJul 2016

“don't forget their roots”

Apple's roots in factory automation

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I wouldn't underestimate them with their war chest and supply chain expertise, and don't forget their roots: this video

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Cites itfoobiekrJul 2020

“Early lights out production.”

Early lights-out production at NeXT

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Every discussion of highly-automated factories brings to mind this: this video Early lights out production. The problem became obvious a little later, for NeXT, which was that these things only make sense at very high scale for products that change infrequently.

in “Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory” · view on HN
Cites itChickeNESSep 2020

“At about 35 minutes in there was a video demonstrating their automated PCB assembly line”

Automated PCB assembly line demo

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At about 35 minutes in there was a video demonstrating their automated PCB assembly line, and luckily it's on YouTube: this video

in “New Steve Jobs recordings from the '80s released” · view on HN
Cites itscrlkApr 2025

“There are videos of these factories in action”

Video of NeXT's automated factory in action

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Steve invested heavily in automation for the Mac and NeXT factories. There are videos of these factories in action: We Are Manufacturing (Apple): link The Machine to Build the Machines (NeXT): this video Infamously, he caused a ton of issues for both factories when he demanded that the machinery be painted to colours of his liking. > When Jobs took a tour, he ordered that the machines be repainted in the bright colors he wanted. Carter objected; this was precision equipment, and repainting the machines could cause problems. He turned out to be right. One of the most expensive machines, which got painted bright blue, ended up not working properly and was dubbed “Steve’s Folly.” Finally Carter quit. “It took so much energy to fight him, and it was usually over something so pointless that finally I had enough,” he recalled. [0] > Jobs demanded that all the robots in the NeXT manufacturing plant be painted in coordinated shades of gray and black. 2 of his top manufacturing engineers worked through a weekend to paint the assembly line, repeating the process 4 times until they got the finish just right. [1] Ultimately, even that significant automation investment couldn't overcome the core challenges that other commenters have pointed out. I find the culture aspect ironic. Deming was American, yet American manufacturers largely ignored him until the Japanese applied his methods and began outcompeting everyone. [0] link [1] link

in “Apple Computers Used to Be Built in the U.S. It Was a Mess (2018)” · view on HN
CriticalIBMMar 2018

“Sounds like Steve Jobs... in 1986.”

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>sounds like one of those sad stories where the engineers fell in love with the stack and forgot about the product. Sounds like Steve Jobs... in 1986. this video

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