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Big Plane vs Little Plane (The Economics of Long-Haul Flights)

4.3M views · Oct 11, 2016 · 10:08 · 8 HN recommenders · 8 mentions · discussed 2017–2023

Wendover Productions explains why Boeing's efficient 787 beat Airbus's giant A380, contrasting hub-and-spoke with point-to-point routes. It covers the economics of long-haul flights.

Why Hacker News points people here: Recommended in threads on the 747 and A380 for explaining why big planes were phased out.

“This is a great video on the economics of the hub and spoke vs. direct model embodied by the A380 vs 787”HN comment, 2018

What Hacker News said 8

Strongly recommendscrikliJan 2018

“Some great (sometimes indirect) information on why the 747 and to a lesser extent the A380 are being phased out”

Explains why the 747 and A380 are being phased out

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I was rolling my eyes at the subtitle. The article devolved from there. Some great (sometimes indirect) information on why the 747 and to a lesser extent the A380 are being phased out, from my new favorite YouTube channel, Wendover Productions: The Economics of Long-Haul Flights: this video ETOPS: Explained link Politics of Aviation / 5 Freedoms of Aviation: link

in “A personal ode to the Boeing 747” · view on HN
Strongly recommendsmthomasbJan 2018

“This is a great video on the economics of the hub and spoke vs. direct model embodied by the A380 vs 787”

Hub and spoke versus direct model, A380 versus 787

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This is a great video on the economics of the hub and spoke vs. direct model embodied by the A380 vs 787: this video That channel also has alot of very interesting content on the economics of air travel (e.g., seating classes, how tickets are priced, etc).

in “Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production” · view on HN
RecommendsafarrellApr 2017

“Wendover Productions — mostly transportation”

Channel on transportation, listed among unwinding favorites

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Ooooh, these are nice. Here are mine: Extra History: stories of historical incidents — link Real Engineering: mostly materials science — link - Wendover Productions — mostly transportation - this video Tom Scott: a bit of everything — link - Jay foreman: Urban planning and maps — link The Engineer Guy: Manufacturing — link Practical Engineering: Mostly Civil Engineering — link 3Blue1Brown: Math, visualized to me more intuitive — link

in “Ask HN: How do you unwind at the end of a day?” · view on HN
Recommendsnighthawk454Oct 2017

“Wendover Productions has an interesting video which touches on this, and the need for a new middle-tier plane.”

Touches on the need for a middle-tier plane

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Wendover Productions has an interesting video which touches on this, and the need for a new middle-tier plane. this video

in “As the 747 Begins Its Final Approach, a Pilot Takes a Flight Down Memory Lane” · view on HN
RecommendsjasodeJan 2018

“The youtube channel Wendover has lots of educational videos about transportation”

Compares A380 and 787 economics in ten minutes

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>, what has taken over in the big jumbo market? The "big jumbo market" itself has shrunk in demand and was made less relevant by the newer generation of long-range fuel-efficient (but smaller) planes like Boeing 737Max/777/787 and Airbus A330. Airbus originally projected sales of 1200 A380s in 2005 but only sold ~300 so far. The "missing" 900 sales happened because many airlines rejected A380s designed for hub-&-spoke in favor of smaller planes designed for point-to-point. The youtube channel Wendover has lots of educational videos about transportation and he has a 10 minute video about the different economics of Airbus A380 vs Boeing 787: this video

in “As of today, no US passenger airlines operate the Boeing 747” · view on HN
RecommendspeterjleeJan 2018

“Here's a relevant video from Wendover productions explaining why Boeing 787 is doing better than A380.”

Explains why the 787 is doing better than the A380

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Here's a relevant video from Wendover productions explaining why Boeing 787 is doing better than A380. this video

in “Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production” · view on HN
RecommendsmichaeltFeb 2019

“You might enjoy watching [1].”

Explains A380 hub-and-spoke bet versus 787 point-to-point

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You might enjoy watching [1]. TLDR: There's a ~20 year lead time on a radical new plane design. The A380 is designed for an airline industry dominated by 'hub-and-spoke' airlines (where a large plane can make efficient use of expensive landing slots at busy airports), while the 787 Dreamliner is designed for an airline industry dominated by 'point-to-point' airlines (where a small plane can avoid the busy airport and expensive landing slot by serving smaller airports). 20 years after they were both conceived of, it's looking like the hub-and-spoke model is the future. Oh, there's still some demand for such a plane, and some routes are busy enough to benefit from it. But if there isn't enough demand to keep the production lines open, the production lines get closed, leaving existing operators high and dry. That fact makes operators nervous to place orders, which is of course a vicious cycle. [1] this video

in “A380 cancellations by Qantas raise new questions about the superjumbo's future” · view on HN
RecommendsrdhattFeb 2023

“Wendover Productions has a great video on this topic”

Covers economics of big versus small long-haul planes

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Wendover Productions has a great video on this topic: Big Plane vs Little Plane (The Economics of Long-Haul Flights) this video

in “Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight” · view on HN