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Venture Capital - Silicon Valley Ponzi Scheme - Chamath Palihapitiya

309K views · Nov 12, 2019 · 13:10 · 1 HN recommender · 6 mentions · discussed 2020–2023

A 13-minute clip from This Week in Startups in which Chamath Palihapitiya describes venture capital as a Ponzi-like scheme driven by fees and inflated valuations among VCs.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited in threads about startups, VC and private equity as an insider's description of how VC economics work, though commenters note he is self-serving.

“This video is a good explanation of how the VC world actually works.”HN comment, 2020

What Hacker News said 6

RecommendsnowherebeenDec 2020

“This video is a good explanation of how the VC world actually works.”

Explains how the VC world actually works

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> all this money and all this failure, its going to end badly, these investors are gonna get burnt No, I think all these startups employees with families to feed are going to be out of a job. VCs fund startups that shouldn’t have been funded in the first place. They create a market that artificially props up unsustainable businesses. This video is a good explanation of how the VC world actually works. this video

in “How to Start a Startup (2014)” · view on HN
Cites itReedxJan 2020

“Chamath Palihapitiya describes this here”

Chamath describes VC as Ponzi-like fee scheme

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It seems that a lot of VC is a multivariate ponzi scheme of sorts, which might explain some of it. If they're making fees regardless, then they just need to show/push fast initial growth to attract more layers of investment and it doesn't necessarily need to make long term sense. Chamath Palihapitiya describes this here: this video

in “Lime shuts in 12 markets, lays off around 100” · view on HN
Cites itibeckermayerJan 2020

“VCs also get paid by getting other VCs to evaluate their companies as more valuable in a sort of Ponzi scheme”

Cited for VCs inflating each other's valuations

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VCs also get paid by getting other VCs to evaluate their companies as more valuable in a sort of Ponzi scheme: this video

in “Lime shuts in 12 markets, lays off around 100” · view on HN
Cites itcrypticaSep 2020

“the entire space is a ponzi scheme to begin with”

Cited as evidence that startup world is a Ponzi scheme

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Let's not ignore the 'minor' detail that the entire space is a ponzi scheme to begin with (coming from Chamath Palihapitiya; a billionaire who was one of the first Facebook employees): this video And let's not ignore that the entire financial system within which this ponzi scheme operates is also a giant ponzi scheme: link So the startup world is literally a ponzi scheme within a ponzi scheme.

in “Fuck You Startup World (2016)” · view on HN
Cites itjiveturkeyJun 2022

“Warning, video is self-serving but simplistically, this is part of it.”

Chamath discussed this in 2019, with a self-serving caveat

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Not a new understanding. Chamath Palihapitiya talked about this in 2019, and others before then although I don't have references. this video Warning, video is self-serving but simplistically, this is part of it. To be clear, the VCs understand what they are doing. They aren't fleecing themselves.

in “Amundi warns that parts of private equity market resemble ‘Ponzi schemes’” · view on HN
Cites itstillwithitNov 2023

Linked alongside claim about Altman's circular funding funnel

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Yeh he was setting up another funding funnel MS -> OpenAI -> his AI chips this video Make it appear on paper like there’s proper separation of concerns but really building a web to form monopoly with MS’s backing because they can’t get in trouble if some startup is doing it. Just more shell company games to play the system, screw everyone else by using their churches to claim dominion over all of tech. These guys are too obvious now. The elders who don’t know better are dying off leaving behind a more technically literate voter base.

in “More on Sam Altman's Ouster from OpenAI” · view on HN