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"Propositions as Types" by Philip Wadler

144K views · Sep 26, 2015 · 42:43 · 9 HN recommenders · 20 mentions · discussed 2015–2026

Philip Wadler's Strange Loop talk on Propositions as Types, the link between logic and computation (the Curry-Howard correspondence). He traces its history through Church, Godel and Turing and shows how it shaped theorem provers and programming languages.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN regards it as an entertaining and eye-opening introduction to why logic and functional programming are connected, and it is a frequent pick in favorite-tech-talk threads.

“best ~40 minutes I've ever spent.”HN comment, 2017

What Hacker News said 20

Strongly recommendsjcox92Nov 2015

“Probably my favorite talk at Strange Loop this year.”

Favorite talk of the conference

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+1 Probably my favorite talk at Strange Loop this year. It's worth watching just for the minute or so starting here: this video

in “Propositions as Types (2014) [pdf]” · view on HN
Strongly recommendsrunT1MEOct 2016

“I think this can really really change how we look at everyday programming tasks”

Changes how you view everyday programming tasks

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Propositions as Types: this video I think this can really really change how we look at everyday programming tasks everywhere from the type of tooling we choose to how we approach problems.

in “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?” · view on HN
Strongly recommendsimodeJan 2017

“best ~40 minutes I've ever spent.”

Opened eyes to the utility of logic in everyday programming

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curry-howard and Wadler's "Propositions as Types" talk at StrangeLoop* opened my eyes pretty early on to the sweet, sweet utility of logic in my every day programming. it sounds odd to start with but I never realized why these things mattered prior to viewing this talk. props to wadler. best ~40 minutes I've ever spent. * this video

in “Proofs are Programs – 19th Century Logic and 21st Century Computing (2000) [pdf]” · view on HN
Strongly recommendsjgautschAug 2018

“it's one of my favorite talks. Well worth a watch if you haven't seen it”

Introduces Curry-Howard correspondence with history and follow-on ideas

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Professor Philip Wadler has a fantastic talk titled "Propositions as Types" that introduces the Curry-Howard correspondence, some history behind it and ideas following it. In fact it's one of my favorite talks. Well worth a watch if you haven't seen it: this video

in “Curry–Howard correspondence” · view on HN
RecommendschrislloydNov 2015

“Philip gave a extremely entertaining talk on the same subject at Strange Loop this year”

Entertaining talk on the same subject as the paper

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If you're finding the paper too dense, Philip gave a extremely entertaining talk on the same subject at Strange Loop this year: this video

in “Propositions as Types (2014) [pdf]” · view on HN
RecommendsmietekJul 2016

“If you like watching videos, try”

Authority on proofs being programs, in video form

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If you’re using the right language, proofs are programs; it’s as simple as that. “Compressing” a proof, then, amounts to doing what good programmers are already doing — noticing patterns and eliminating redundancy. I’ll refer you to an authority on the subject, Phil Wadler. If you like watching videos, try < this video . If you’d rather read an entertaining paper, try < link .

RecommendsyawaraminApr 2018

“that was the talk that introduced Lambdaman to the world.”

Favorite tech talk, also introduced Lambdaman

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Philip Wadler's 'Propositions as Types': this video Bonus: that was the talk that introduced Lambdaman to the world.

in “Ask HN: What is your favourite tech talk?” · view on HN
RecommendspmiriOct 2018

“A really in depth look into why functional languages stand out as a programming paradigm.”

In-depth look at functional languages paralleling mathematical logic

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Propositions as Types by Philip Wadler A really in depth look into why functional languages stand out as a programming paradigm. The short of it being that they parallel perfectly (almost proof for proof!) with mathematical logic. this video

in “Ask HN: What are some of the best technical talks you've heard?” · view on HN
RecommendsmrkeenJun 2024

“This is nice and genuinely entertaining”

Entertaining talk on mapping between type systems and logic

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This is nice and genuinely entertaining this video (Propositions as types by phil wadler). Its true focus is the 1-1 mapping between type systems and logic systems, but it's well worth the watch. This is good reading - it demystifies the funny typing rules in their mathematical form. link (Neither of these tell you how to implement the checker yourself though)

in “A reckless introduction to Hindley-Milner type inference (2019)” · view on HN
Cites itrbonvallDec 2016

“claims that aliens will probably have discovered it”

Wadler on lambda calculus as the omniversal language

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The lambda calculus teaches you how to build computation from a very simple evaluation rule called "beta reduction" which is just a fancy name for "search and replace" with function parameters. If you can find a system that can rewrite terms in such a fashion, you can compute whatever you want using the tricks you learn in lambda calculus. For example, C++ templates were not meant to be Turing-complete, but they work by rewriting terms [1], so you can encode lambda calculus in it, and run arbitrary programs at compile time . Philip Wadler does a better job than me at getting excited by lambda calculus. He calls it "the omniversal programming language", and claims that aliens will probably have discovered it [2]. [1]: link [2]: this video

in “An Introduction to the Lambda Calculus (2015)” · view on HN
Cites itsitkackOct 2017

One entry in a list of type system references

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Came here to mention MyPy and optional typing, the preferable term Gradual Typing means something distinctly different. link Dropbox employs the creator of MyPy but it isn't a creation of dropbox. Type Systems as Macros link Pluggable Type Systems link Propositions as Types link this video

in “The Ergonomics of Type Checking (2016)” · view on HN
Cites itcraigsmansionSep 2018

“Lambda calculus is a discovery, and should we ever encounter an alien space-faring species, we could read their programs”

Source for lambda calculus being discovered not invented

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I know it seems like one of those Lispers' idiosyncrasies--"discovered" instead of "invented". I first heard it explained by Philip Wadler, and upon reflection it was one of those "enlightenment" moments that Lispers always go on about: Lambda calculus is a discovery, and should we ever encounter an alien space-faring species, we could read their programs in spite of their alien processing architectures (given that they use a functional language, but let's face it, they have the tech to cross space, they know what they are doing, i.e. they're in the functional camp) "Propositions as Types" by Philip Wadler, Strange Loop. ( this video )

Cites itBucketSortFeb 2019

“Maybe not the best video or intro to the themes though.”

Example of themes in functional programming community

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Proof assistants are like that. Check out Coq or Agda. If you aren't aware of it already, your spirit is calling for the stuff they talk about a lot in the functional programming community. See this video for example. Maybe not the best video or intro to the themes though. Wadler also just put out a book about programming language foundations in Agda - link . link being one of the profound ideas here.

Cites itplatzSep 2019

“Philip Wadler showcases and comments on some of this history in his conference talk”

Wadler comments on the history of logic and computation

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Philip Wadler showcases and comments on some of this history in his conference talk "Propositions as Types" this video

in “Timeline for Logic, λ-Calculus, and Programming Language Theory (2012) [pdf]” · view on HN
Cites itnameloswMay 2021

“all of a sudden he tore his shirt”

Wadler tore his shirt to reveal a lambda man suit

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My favorite is Philip Wadler - during a Strange Loop talk[0], all of a sudden he tore his shirt, showing his "lambda man" suit underneath. [0] this video

Cites itpeoplefromibizaJan 2022

“computer science has two problems: computer and science”

Source for Wadler's remark on computer science naming

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notoriously Philip Wadler says that computer science has two problems: computer and science. It's not about computers and "You don't put science on your name if you're a real science" He prefers the name informatics. source: this video

in “Ask HN: Should I publish my research code?” · view on HN
Cites itrichardjam73Aug 2022

“A semi related video about the relationship between mathematics and computer science”

Related video on mathematics and computer science

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A semi related video about the relationship between mathematics and computer science this video "Propositions as Types" by Philip Wadler

in “Presentation: Four programming languages from forty years ago (2018)” · view on HN
Cites itpeter_d_shermanJan 2023

“Evaluation corresponds exactly to simplification of proofs”

Cited for evaluation corresponding to proof simplification

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You might wish to have a look at "Propositions as Types" by Philip Wadler (thanks rbonvall, for the link!) -- at 21:30 (1290 seconds) into the video: this video " Evaluation corresponds exactly to simplification of proofs ..." (The rest of the video, both before and after this statement, contain more context...) That being said, I agree with you that languages which are used primarily for theorem proving (AKA, "proof assistants") -- are usually not as applicable to as broad a range of programming paradigms and problems as most general purpose computer programming languages are...

in “Idris: A Language for Type-Driven Development” · view on HN
Cites itvishnuguptaAug 2023

Linked within a historical background on lambda calculus

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A little bit of historical background. There was a concerted effort in the late 19th, early 20th century (perhaps earlier too) to mechanise computation i.e., reducing it to a pure symbolic manipulation. There were obvious benefits, a famous one being Enigma Machine that was used to (successfully I think) break the German code during WW-2. On the philosophical side a parallel and overlapping effort was going on to figure out using mathematics to represent all possible truths , again as symbolic manipulation system. Bertrand Russel's magnum opus Principia Mathematica [1] was one such famous work towards it. Kurt Gödel then made a breakthrough when he proved that such a system is impossible; i.e., a system can either capture all the truths or it can be consistent but not both[2]. Put differently, any mathematical system capable of representing all the truths will necessarily contain contradictions within it. Now coming to your question. Lambda calculus emerged in this milieu. Alonzo Church[3] invented one such system to mechanise computation, named ƛ-calculus. Using this system one can mechanically compute any function purely through symbolic manipulation. Later on Turing, Church's student I think, invented a totally different system named Turing Machine with the same purpose. Later on it was proved (by Church and Turing I think, but I'm not 100% sure) that ƛ-Calculus and Turing Machine are equivalent, Church-Turing thesis[4]. All these work, and more, laid the theoretical found

Cites itpyraleMay 2026

Cited for programs as proofs in any language

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That's any programming language, really [1]. Any website contains millions of "proofs", not all of them are useful. Choosing what needs to be proven is hard. And the spectrum of languages/type systems and their usability as either is more explored nowadays than it used to be. If you don't likue coq, you can look for agda. If agda is too far for you, you can look for Haskell. If that's still impractical, there's rust or f#, etc... The tradeoff you have between "convenient for expressing proofs" and "convenient for programming" has many options. [1]: this video

in “- -dangerously-skip-reading-code – olano.dev” · view on HN