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Surface Plate Calibration and Conditioning

464K views · Jan 21, 2016 · 33:05 · 1 HN recommender · 3 mentions · discussed 2017–2020

A look at how granite surface plates are inspected, calibrated and reconditioned using an autocollimator, a repeat meter and diamond-charged cast iron laps. Measurements are at the level of millionths of an inch.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited in threads on flatness and precision as a glimpse into a niche metrology profession.

“I like the glimpse into the hobby/profession shown on channels like this”HN comment, 2020

What Hacker News said 3

Recommends205guyApr 2020

“I like the glimpse into the hobby/profession shown on channels like this”

Glimpse of expert calibration and lapping of surface plates

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The YouTube channel oxtoolco has a video showing lapping of surface plates. Not the same as hand scraping, but the principle of using a reference surface is similar, and the master plate looks like the illustrations in this 100-year old document. Plus I think with modern synthetic diamond abrasives, you can directly lap the plates against each other. Lapping starts at 17:40 (they do surface measurements first): this video I am no machinist, but I like the glimpse into the hobby/profession shown on channels like this and others that comments have mentioned. In the video, the channel owner hires a company to service his stone regency plates, so there is an expert who comes and uses specialized tools to measure and then flatten the plates (and certify them too). You can see and experience the expertise that the guy has with these physical systems, yet it’s just one niche job in a huge engineering tool chain. It really made me think a lot about metal machining and fabrication, and how those rely on fundamental measurements and properties such as flatness.

in “Hand Scraping a Truly Flat Plane (1908) [pdf]” · view on HN
Cites itNegativeKMar 2017

“Granite surface plates (highly accurate planes) are hand lapped”

Hand lapping of granite surface plates

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Hand techniques are still used for reference surfaces in machining. Granite surface plates (highly accurate planes) are hand lapped[1], and metal bearing surfaces on machine tools and cast iron reference tools are sometimes hand scraped[2]. [1] On location calibration and lapping of granite surface plates: this video [2] Hand scraping (effectively chiseling) of reference cast iron surfaces: link

Cites itblhackNov 2018

“everything is being done in millionths of an inch.”

Resurfacing a very flat plate in millionths of an inch

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What applications are you talking about? Just for a general example of the sort of thing I'm talking about: this video They're resurfacing a surface plate, which has to be very flat. If you listen to the exchanges between them, everything is being done in millionths of an inch.

in “International System of Units overhauled in historic vote” · view on HN