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ATTOL: Autonomous Taxiing, Take-Off and Landing test flight

395K views · Jan 17, 2020 · 0:56 · 0 HN recommenders · 3 mentions · discussed 2021–2025

Short Airbus footage of its ATTOL project, in which a test aircraft performed a fully automatic, vision-based take-off at Toulouse-Blagnac. The crew ran eight take-offs over several hours.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited in autonomy debates as evidence that autonomous take-off aircraft exist and as an example of vision-based line following.

“Sure, no _commercial_ plane can take off with autopilot, but such planes exist[1].”HN comment, 2022

What Hacker News said 3

Cites itrtkweSep 2021

“It looks like the cameras are entirely focused on line following.”

Airbus autonomous taxi test appears focused on line following

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They're still in a vastly more controlled environment than cars and moving at much lower speeds as well. If an auto taxiing plane has to avoid another airport vehicle something has gone massively wrong. Judging by this video [0] I'm not sure they're even worrying about collisions and are counting on the combination of pilots and ATC ground controllers to avoid issues while taxiing. It looks like the cameras are entirely focused on line following. [0] this video

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Cites itl33t2328Jun 2022

“Sure, no _commercial_ plane can take off with autopilot, but such planes exist[1].”

Example that autonomous takeoff aircraft exist

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_sigh_ Yes. It can. You’re intentionally misrepresenting reality for what I suspect is some ideological fondness of Tesla. Sure, no _commercial_ plane can take off with autopilot, but such planes exist[1]. But, saying Cat IIIc is required for hands off landing is silly. It’s required for hands off landing in the absolute worst conditions. It’s needed only when conditions are so bad that you can’t safely taxi and you’ll be stuck on the runway. That’s why it’s not used. [1] this video

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Cites itrkomornSep 2025

“this video is arguably the most fun one”

Airbus ATTOL project showing autonomous takeoff work

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Not only that but they are even less capable of taking off on their own (see the work done by Airbus' ATTOL project [0] on what some of the more recent successes are). So I'm not sure what "planes can land on their own" gets us anyway even if autopilot on modern airliners can do an awful lot on their own (including following flight plans in ways that are more advanced than before). The Garmin Autoland basically announces "my pilot is incapacitated and the plane is going to land itself at <insert a nearby runway>" without asking for landing clearance (which is very cool in and of itself but nowhere near what anyone would consider autonomous). [0] this video (among other things, but this video is arguably the most fun one) Edit: and yes maybe the "pilots are basically superfluous now" misconception is a pet peeve for me (and I'm guessing parent as well)

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