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Some Countries Exist Only on Paper

12.4M views · Oct 23, 2013 · 5:26 · 1 HN recommender · 4 mentions · discussed 2016–2020

A short CGP Grey explainer about how countries are defined, why recognition by others matters, and the oddities of places like Taiwan and Vatican City. It shows that statehood is partly a matter of diplomacy rather than fact.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited in threads on borders, Taiwan's status and how many countries exist, as a quick explanation of why recognition is political.

“You might find this video clip interesting”HN comment, 2018

What Hacker News said 4

RecommendsdwheelerJul 2018

“You might find this video clip interesting”

Explains the naming game around Taiwan.

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Officially, many countries and businesses agree that Taiwan isn't a country, while continuing in practice to do everything that only makes sense if Taiwan is in fact a country. This is an old game that fools no one. I wouldn't fuss about the name, we all know what's really going on, and the name game probably saves millions of lives. You might find this video clip interesting: this video

Cites itjack9Jan 2016

“country borders are based on if land can be defended from other claimants”

Borders depend on whether land can be defended.

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> The government owns all land until it is transferred/sold to a private owner. That's not a new thing: that precedent goes back to Day 1 of the United States, and maybe further I think you are talking about the fluidity of borders and lands worldwide. In reality, country borders are based on if land can be defended from other claimants ( this video ). This is the final arbitration, even after exploring existing treaties (which arent always followed, link ). The idea that the US federal government owns land until it's disseminated is one of those american myths that the US Govt tries REALLY hard to let alone, despite most federal lands being originally acquired by fiat and in the last 200 years by eminent domain (sometimes a front for private parties like the railway barons). Almost any private vs federal case can raise issues that can be elevated to the supreme court where the USG has a lot more to lose, regardless of the outcome. So they make lots of small steps, wisely. When they run into a case, even if they lose, the USG will simply work around the small setback.

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Cites itdwheelerMay 2020

“In all practical senses Taiwan is a separate country, but there are reasons not to admit it”

Explains reasons for not admitting Taiwan as a country.

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It says it only applies to the People's Republic of China, and in the notes above it's only because of the laws of the People's Republic of China. In all practical senses Taiwan is a separate country, but there are reasons not to admit it: this video

in “HashiCorp forbids its software being used in China” · view on HN
Cites itjudge2020Oct 2020

“There are 193 countries (footnote[0])”

Footnote source for count of 193 countries.

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There are 193 countries (footnote[0]), so that might mean 193 app stores, but then some countries might delegate the power to require their own app store to their own regions/"states". 0: this video

in “Modi government to set up app store alternative to Google Play, Apple App Store” · view on HN