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What Happens When Ammo Burns? Sporting Ammunition and the Fire Fighter | SAAMI.org

868K views · Nov 28, 2012 · 25:47 · 0 HN recommenders · 4 mentions · discussed 2014–2020

A SAAMI-produced training video for firefighters explaining what happens when sporting ammunition burns, including that unchambered cartridges lack the energy to penetrate much. It includes test footage of ammunition in fires.

Why Hacker News points people here: Cited as evidence that ammunition cooking off in a fire is much less dangerous than people assume.

“Ammo cooking off in a fire sounds dramatic but isn't particularly dangerous [0]”HN comment, 2017

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Cites itMrLeapDec 2014

“it demonstrates that a rifle cartridge fired without a chamber doesn't have the energy to penetrate cardboard”

Shows fired cartridges outside a chamber lack penetrating energy

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Most bullet cases are made out of brass. I'm no rocket scientist, but brass cases would make a horrible rocket engine material. The only reason cases don't catastrophically fail when you fire a gun is because of the bolt/chamber providing support. Brass IS pretty good about stretching quite a bit before a catastrophic failure. This property is what allows case fire-forming ( link ). It's also a pretty awesome safety feature. Cases are so bad by themselves about containing the force of expanding gas, that ammunition fires aren't nearly as dangerous as you might expect them to be. ( this video ) It's a long video, but if I recall correctly, it demonstrates that a rifle cartridge fired without a chamber doesn't have the energy to penetrate cardboard at like an 11 inch range.

Cites itMeradOct 2017

“Ammo cooking off in a fire sounds dramatic but isn't particularly dangerous [0]”

Ammo cooking off in a fire is not very dangerous

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Ammo cooking off in a fire sounds dramatic but isn't particularly dangerous [0], unless of course a loaded gun is burning. In the OP's position it would be really low on my list of priorities. [0]: this video (skip to about 13 min)

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Cites itbillhSep 2019

“Even if it does go off, as long as the rounds are not chambered it's really not that big of a deal.”

Unchambered rounds in a fire are not a big deal

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Even if it does go off, as long as the rounds are not chambered it's really not that big of a deal. this video

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Cites itbacondude3Nov 2020

“Ammo is not dangerous in a fire”

Ammo is not dangerous in a fire

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Again, wrong. Ammo is not dangerous in a fire: this video As for humidity, I think you would be surprised. Much of Appalachia and the East Coast have high humidity levels (typically 70-90% during summer IIRC) and I've never found ammo damaged by humidity there. I've shot 25 year old ammo that was put in an ammo can and dumped in a hiding spot near a pond (so, very high humidity) and had no issues shooting with it. Even if the ammo is stored in the manufacturer's cardboard box, I wouldn't worry about humidity damage unless average levels are over 85 or 90%. Water damage is a different matter, but I don't have any experience with that.

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