3.6M views · Jan 10, 2023 · 23:19 · 4 HN recommenders · 8 mentions · discussed 2023–2025
Wendover Productions explains why Amtrak trains run late: most Amtrak routes run on freight-owned track, and the law giving passenger trains priority is rarely enforced. The video covers rail ownership versus control and how freight carriers hold the leverage.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN commenters cite it whenever passenger rail delays or expansion come up, as the clearest explanation of freight priority over Amtrak.
“Wendover Productions made a great video [0] explaining this situation.”HN comment, 2023
“Wendover Productions made a great video [0] explaining this situation.”
Explains the unenforced passenger priority law
While technically true, that law is never enforced, so in practice OP's statement is sadly correct. Wendover Productions made a great video [0] explaining this situation. [0]: this video
“Wendover Productions posted an interesting train-related video recently.”
Traces Amtrak issues back to freight rail
Wendover Productions posted an interesting train-related video recently. this video It would appear that the issues with Amtrak can be traced back to freight rail as well. See 07:46 onwards for more details.
“wendover did a good viedeo about that a while ago”
Passenger priority law that nobody enforces
wendover did a good viedeo about that a while ago: this video the law says that passenger trains have priority, but nobody respects or enforces that.
“An interesting video on the subject”
Freight train length loophole and passenger delays
It's not an enforcement issue so much as it is a heavily exploited loophole. Part of the reason freight trains are so long is so that they can't fit in passing sidings. Since Amtrak does fit, they end up having to yield because the freight trains simply cannot. Could this be fixed by legislation on max train length to ensure all trains fit in sidings? Yes. Will that legislation get passed? No. An interesting video on the subject: this video
“Blame the fact freight generally overrules passenger”
Why freight overrules passenger trains
Blame the fact freight generally overrules passenger: this video Amtrak isn’t allowed to be successful Either way rather be stuck on a train then a plane anyday
“Here's a video from Wendover Productions about the laws surrounding ownership vs control”
Laws on rail ownership versus control
Amtrak is supposed to get first priority, but lines are still owned by freight companies who culled many passenger-heavy lines for "efficiency" and run extremely long trains that clog up traffic for hours, again for some spreadsheet-worthy target metric of "efficiency". Here's a video from Wendover Productions about the laws surrounding ownership vs control: this video
“I saw this video recently that claims that right of way from freight trains are the only thing stopping expanded Amtrak service between many big metros”
Freight right of way limits Amtrak expansion
I saw this video recently that claims that right of way from freight trains are the only thing stopping expanded Amtrak service between many big metros - eg. LA to Vegas. this video
“We have the trackage, we need to find a way to put passenger rail on a better footing against freight carriers.”
Passenger rail versus freight carriers
We kind of do. It's just that the tracks are owned by freight companies BNSF, Union Pacific, CSX, or Norfolk Southern. Take a look at their system maps. BNSF: link UP: link CSX: link NS: link Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Kansas City fill in a few gaps in the US and extend the system to Canada and Mexico. Throw in Ferromex and that covers most of North America. We have the trackage, we need to find a way to put passenger rail on a better footing against freight carriers. See this video
