#Earth 🌏 Will we survive this ? Amazing⚡️ #crashcourse on #collapse & #environment by #ArthurKeller

I check and comment on the subreddit on an almost daily basis, and have for about a year now. It takes a while to believe that it can happen, for sure. I didn't start seriously believing it for at least six months of checking the subreddit periodically. But when you see how much damage we're doing to our oceans (National Geographic warns there might be no (human) seafood at all by 2048[1], ocean acidification, coral bleaching, etc), how more and more regions are getting into emergency situations with water (which will lead to people getting more and more desperate to get that water, and possibly wars being waged over it), positive feedback loops from global warming that can shoot us way past 1.5c if we get that far (I've seen speculation that it could get up to 12c, which would likely wipe out humanity), and know how terrible humans are at dealing with exponential and compounding escalating situations (as proven by our current pandemic), and yeah, I'm pretty sure it will happen. The only question is how soon. It's also looking like even if we could do enough about it, we'd have to dedicate almost 100% of our efforts towards it, and basically everyone on the planet are being distracted by petty shit, or even other very important issues, just not as threatening to our existence and society like climate change is (including myself, it's hard to avoid the distractions with our monkey brains). So instead we're doing basically nothing but lip service towards these issues, still, af

I found the part "Humans in Complex Systems" quite interesting. My understanding of it is that technology could fall short of being an adequate solution to a more systemic problem wrt climate change. In addition to that work, I've been digging around the perspective of system dynamics [1] on the issues the global civilization is facing [2]. I feel the crowd here is more biased toward a solutionist view on those issues - I might be very wrong. Anyway, I was curious about different perspectives on this topics. [1] link [2] this video

No paywall: link Great acceleration graph: link Exponential growth vs. carrying capacity of the environment: this video

> There were 3 billion people in the world in 1960, now we are 8 billion. And some of them consume very little, and a western minority consumes much more than in 1960. link > Why do I pay almost double for 'bio' foodstuff? Why do people today choose to buy ultra processed instead of simple foods Why is healthy food so expensive in America? Blame the Farm Bill that Congress always renews to make burgers cheaper than salad link The 2023 Farm Bill is projected to spend $700 billion over the next five years, with powerful industry lobbyists directing funds to enrich themselves at the expense of agricultural communities, human health, animal welfare, and environmental sustainability. Most Americans have never heard of this massive omnibus bill, which Congress reauthorizes every five or so years, yet it impacts us every day. It shapes our food system–from subsidizing factory farms to funding food and nutrition programs, and it is why burgers are artificially cheap and salads cost more than they should. > with votes for politicians that push for innovative solutions Where did that got us in the last 50 years? Still business as usual. > actively trying to develop new technologies to mitigate the strategy You have one of the 4 classic viewpoints, pretty understandable, but not really realistic. this video

> So in other words, we don't know what their elites did. They didn't do enough. > And I'm not denying climate change. Climate change is just one symptom of the overshoot of the environment's carrying capacity (planetary boundaries). > Is it obvious? Isn't it the subject of intense scientific research? link Climate change, biodiversity loss and deforestation (land use change) are our biggest problems, I'd say. > This article just seems like it's taking advantage of peoples anxieties to harvest clicks No, it's just an early bird in the mass media. We'll hear about it more often going forward. Earlier collapse of Anthropocene ecosystems driven by multiple faster and noisier drivers link Climate Endgame: Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios link Trajectories of the Earth System in the Anthropocene link Ecological doom-loops: Why ecosystem collapses may occur much sooner than expected link The Human Ecology of Overshoot: Why a Major ‘Population Correction’ Is Inevitable link Chances Of Societal Collapse In Next Few Decades Is Sky High, Modelling Suggests link Ecological Collapse Could Happen Much Sooner Than Expected, Study Finds link Deep Adaptation: A Map for Navigating Climate Tragedy link Collapse - the only realistic scenario? this video

> Collapse of what? Civilization? I was referring to the collapse (significant degradation) of the environmental carrying capacity. In such a scenario, our civilization would implode on its own. this video link link > But feel free to try and change my view It's a complex topic ... I only can give you a few links. The system we live in is very complex ... and as in every complex system even a minor error can cripple the system. Just remember how much damage to the economy was caused by just one ship blocking the Suez. I don't think the system is able to handle large-scale agricultural failures, prolonged droughts or abrupt sea level rises. Everything seems to be changing more rapidly than predicted - from air and sea temperatures to thawing, droughts, biodiversity loss, etc. link Climate Collapse Could Happen Fast - As temperature and weather records fall, Earth may be nearing so-called tipping points. link Catastrophic climate 'doom loops' could start in just 15 years, new study warns link Chances Of Societal Collapse In Next Few Decades Is Sky High, Modelling Suggests link Climate Endgame: Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios link The Human Ecology of Overshoot: Why a Major ‘Population Correction’ Is Inevitable link Trajectories of the Earth System in the Anthropocene link Earlier collapse of Anthropocene ecosystems driven by multiple faster and noisier drivers link UN warns Earth ‘firmly on track toward an unlivable world’ link Limits to Growt