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The NCAA: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

15M views · Mar 16, 2015 · 20:54 · 3 HN recommenders · 3 mentions · discussed 2015–2019

John Oliver's Last Week Tonight segment on the NCAA, arguing that the organization profits enormously from college athletes while insisting they remain unpaid amateurs. It covers the money in college sports, including big-school athletic spending, and the case for paying athletes.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN commenters cite it as a sharp, accessible primer on the NCAA's amateurism model and athlete compensation, including for readers outside the US.

“John Oliver has an excellent take on NCAA salaries issue”HN comment, 2019

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Strongly recommendsavipSep 2019

“John Oliver has an excellent take on NCAA salaries issue”

Excellent take on NCAA salary issue with context for non-US readers.

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In case you're lacking context (not all readers here are US basketball fans) - John Oliver has an excellent take on NCAA salaries issue this video

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RecommendsIkmoIkmoApr 2015

“Reminds me of the piece about Alabama in this great Last Week Tonight”

Great episode covering Alabama's sports spending.

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It an expense, not necessarily a cost. Their property values just rose for example. Over time the equipment ages which leads to breaking, and replacement because it's not state of the art anymore. If you expect it to last 20 years, then you can write off 1/20th every year, which are your actual costs. Meaning it's $100 per student per year, which is reasonably cheap because those are essentially your costs to have state of the art equipment available to you every year. Things like heating & lighting, employees, cleaning etc is added to that, but it's mostly independent from renovation as you had to pay that anyway before you renovated. It might go up a bit, it might go down because of more sustainable engineering for example. There's a lot more to it, of course, don't get me wrong. But $2k per student for non-teaching isn't quite the truth, either. But I think the notion of building decent public facilities and amenities is one of the best things we ought to do. It sadly doesn't happen often. But universities do it, libraries, rec centers, I think it's great. It has to happen in a smart way, of course, I don't support some of the ridiculous over the top projects you sometimes see. A pool in the shape of a buffalo, ugh, great example right there. Sadly it's often in the pursuit of collegiate sports and not really providing awesome amenities and facilities to the general student body. Reminds me of the piece about Alabama in this great Last Week Tonight [0] [0] this video

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RecommendsthemartoranaMay 2016

“here is just a little educational material to get you started.”

Educational material on exploitation of student athletes.

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The "league" has billion dollar revenue, multi million dollar coaching salaries, enormous capital expenditures, and more. They are not "break even." If in fact you believe that student athletes are not exploited to an unconscionable degree, here is just a little educational material to get you started. link link this video link link link link And I'm not alone calling it slave labor. I'm just one in a massive chorus. link

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