“it seems likely he was referring to this”
Likely the video Vitalik was alluding to
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Vitalik didn't mention them by name, but given the timing it seems likely he was referring to this: this video
Trump Vs. Biden: Tech Policy
161K views · Jul 16, 2024 · 1:31:11 · 0 HN recommenders · 5 mentions · discussed 2024–2026
On The Ben & Marc Show, Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz compare Trump and Biden policies on tech, crypto, AI and startup taxes, framed around their 'Little Tech Agenda'. They also discuss the Trump assassination attempt.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN cites it as the source for how Andreessen and Horowitz explain their political shift toward the Republicans.
“if you watch Andreessen & Horowitz describe their thinking, it will explain their perspective [1].”HN comment, 2024
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“if you watch Andreessen & Horowitz describe their thinking, it will explain their perspective [1].”
Andreessen and Horowitz explain their political thinking
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I think if you watch Andreessen & Horowitz describe their thinking, it will explain their perspective [1]. For others, such as Musk, I don't think it's as much "turning to the right" as it is that many on the left, which used to be a bastion of civil liberties and free speech protection, have abandoned that position and embraced speech suppression. This has become so pronounced that the label "liberal" is pretty confusing these days, and many folks feel the need to clarify that they believe in "liberalism" as in "Classical liberalism" [2] because many modern "liberals" have moved away from many of those traditional beliefs. There also seems to be a strong and growing anti-capitalist sentiment in the Democrat party which has driven some business folks that were traditionally "left" away from that ideology. And while it may sound a bit trite, I think another factor is that they are simply getting older. The phrase "if you're not a liberal in your 20's you have no heart, if you're not conservative in your 30's you have no brain" has existed in some form since the 1700s [3] and been remarked on even in the American Journal of Medicine [4]. It's pretty common for people's viewpoint to change with age. [1] this video [2] link [3] link [4] link
“Not according to Marc Andreessen & Ben Horowitz [1]”
Andreessen and Horowitz on tech policy
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Not according to Marc Andreessen & Ben Horowitz [1], Chamath Palihapitiya & David Sacks [2], possibly Zuckerberg [3], and others. And of course Elon, Thiel. Many such cases. [1] this video [2] link [3] link
“Andreessen/Horowitz talk about it here”
Andreessen and Horowitz discuss debanking under Biden
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This was actually a significant problem during the Biden administration. The rules were so vague that de-banking could be used in whatever context the administration found convenient. Apparently many companies were pushed offshore as a result. Andreessen/Horowitz talk about it here this video
“He explains their pivot with Ben to GOP in this podcast episode.”
Andreessen explains pivot to GOP
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He explains their pivot with Ben to GOP in this podcast episode. The main argument was that democrats policies were detrimental to their business. this video Mr. Andreessen has been involved with high level politics for a long time. This is not "random radicalization". I will not comment on the quality of the politics but it feels fairly deliberate.