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Alpha Zero's "Immortal Zugzwang Game" against Stockfish

1.7M views · Dec 7, 2017 · 15:37 · 2 HN recommenders · 3 mentions · discussed 2019–2025

agadmator walks through a game in which DeepMind's AlphaZero beat Stockfish, ending in a famous zugzwang that leaves the engine helpless. He gives commentary on the moves.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN recommends it as a striking, well-explained example of AlphaZero's play and of zugzwang.

“A great example I love showing people is Alpha Zero's infamous "Immortal Zugzwang Game" against Stockfish”HN comment, 2019

What Hacker News said 3

Strongly recommendslawrenceyanDec 2019

“A great example I love showing people is Alpha Zero's infamous "Immortal Zugzwang Game" against Stockfish”

Stockfish crushed in a seemingly sudden trap.

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A great example I love showing people is Alpha Zero's infamous "Immortal Zugzwang Game" against Stockfish [0]. Stockfish gets utterly annihilated in a trap that seemingly springs out of nowhere, though of course the reality is that Alpha Zero was actually really in control the entire time. [0] this video

RecommendsmrleiterOct 2019

“Anyone who's interested to see how brilliant AlphaZero played against the best chess computer (then), with solid explanations”

AlphaZero beating Stockfish with solid explanations.

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Anyone who's interested to see how brilliant AlphaZero played against the best chess computer (then), with solid explanations: this video

Cites ityunwalNov 2025

Example where Stockfish misses an obvious move.

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Here’s a chess stackexchange of positions that stump engines link It basically comes down to “ideas that are rare enough that they were never programmed into a chess engine”. Blockades or positions where no progress is possible are a common theme. Engines will often keep tree searching where a human sees an obvious repeating pattern. Here’s also an example where 2 engines are playing, and deep mind finds a move that I think would be obvious to most grandmasters, yet stockfish misses it this video That being said, I’m not sure that this necessarily correlates with brilliancy. There are a few of these that I would probably get in classical time and I’m not a particularly brilliant player.