25.4M views · Dec 3, 2014 · 9:04 · 9 HN recommenders · 11 mentions · discussed 2015–2022
Every Frame a Painting analyzes how Jackie Chan stages action comedy, with nine principles such as starting from a disadvantage, using the environment, clear shots, and keeping action and reaction in the same frame.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN repeatedly recommends it as the clearest explanation of why Chan's fight scenes beat fast-cut Hollywood action.
“does an excellent job of explaining why Jackie Chan's way of doing action is awesome”HN comment, 2022
“One of my favorite "Every Frame a Painting" videos is on Jackie Chan.”
Will change how you see modern action fight scenes.
One of my favorite "Every Frame a Painting" videos is on Jackie Chan. If you haven't seen it be warned, it will ruin your view of almost all modern action fight scenes. this video
“Here’s a really cool video breaking down exactly how Jackie sets up his stunt-action-comedy.”
Breaks down how Jackie Chan sets up stunt-action-comedy sequences.
Here’s a really cool video breaking down exactly how Jackie sets up his stunt-action-comedy. this video One thing that was particular interesting to me is how the setup always starts with him at an extreme disadvantage: no shoes, tied to a chair, hanging upside down, etc. I never noticed it before and it’s exactly what makes his action so enjoyable to watch. (The YouTube Channel is called Every Frame a Painting and all the other videos are fascinating and very worth checking out.)
“does an excellent job of explaining why Jackie Chan's way of doing action is awesome”
Explains why Chan's action beats contemporary Hollywood.
This episode of "Every Frame a Painting" does an excellent job of explaining why Jackie Chan's way of doing action is awesome and why contemporary Hollywood (generally) sucks: this video
“at 5:26, they show how Jackie edits hits to appear twice across cuts to aid in viewability.”
Shows how Jackie Chan edits hits to repeat across cuts.
You'll probably enjoy this: this video In particular, at 5:26, they show how Jackie edits hits to appear twice across cuts to aid in viewability.
“There is a great video essay about Jackie Chan's style (and how it differs from standard Hollywood action movies)”
Explains Jackie Chan's style versus Hollywood action.
Indeed! There is a great video essay about Jackie Chan's style (and how it differs from standard Hollywood action movies) on "Every Frame a Painting" Youtube channel: this video
“Every Frame a Painting has a good video on this.”
Contrasts Jackie Chan's films with American-produced ones.
You can see this difference in the the films produced by him and his studio versus the american-produced ones. Every Frame a Painting has a good video on this. [0] Typically for films the shooting portion takes only a few weeks to finish, so lots of retakes = money lost. Jackie Chan does a lot of random flourishes in his films that end up with him needing a lot of takes. For example, how he scales fences. [1] The way he scales the castle wall in Wheels on Meals (1984) is probably my favorite example. [0]: this video [1]: link
“Every Frame a Painting has a very good video essay on how Jackie Chan films action scenes”
Shows how Jackie Chan films action scenes, especially punches.
Shaky cams are abused in "western" cinema to hide the fact that the studios never have the time to give their actor skills to act out an action scene. In contrast, "asian" cinema either stars actors who can do a large chunks of their own action scenes, or spend time training them. On top of that, "western" cinema doesn't even know about how our eyes and brains perceive the world. Every Frame a Painting has a very good video essay on how Jackie Chan films action scenes: this video Note how punches are filmed.
“I didn’t realize this until I saw this”
Explains Chan's steady wide-angle action versus shaky fast cuts.
There’s a great quote from Jackie Chan about fight scenes: “I never move my camera. Always steady. Wide angle.” Most action scenes in movies have moving cameras with fast cuts and zoomed in faces. Makes it impossible to actually track what’s happening. I didn’t realize this until I saw this※ YT video specifically about his action comedy style. ※ - this video
“Here's a great Every Frame a Painting on it”
Contrasts Chan's clear fight scenes with fast-cut Hollywood.
> Worse, I've seen fight scenes with no/little jiggle, but then every move, punch, dodge, car stunt is replaced with a fast cut, so you don't actually see... well, anything. Jackie Chan's non-American work is the antithesis of this. Here's a great Every Frame a Painting on it: this video
“The Asian Cut”
Cited for the Asian Cut technique.
This is also something used in fight scenes, where a person will say, throw a punch, then the camera angle shifts, and the person will be seen to throw the punch again - "The Asian Cut" [0] [0] this video
Example of subtitles identifying source movies of clips.
Annotations / subtitles have their uses. For example, watch this[1] and choose "English (Movie Titles)" as the subtitle and you can figure out which movies all of the clips come from. [1]: this video
