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How technology loses out in companies, countries & continents and what to do about it

13K views · Jan 16, 2021 · 36:43 · 2 HN recommenders · 5 mentions · discussed 2022–2024

A conference presentation by Bert Hubert on how companies lose their technological edge and become outsourcing hubs. It argues the same dynamic applies to whole countries and continents, and ends with suggestions for reversing it.

Why Hacker News points people here: HN points to it as a sharper explanation of why outsourcing and specialization erode deep expertise, in threads on Intel, Boeing and software decline.

“this excellent video talks about the problems with outsourcing everything”HN comment, 2024

What Hacker News said 5

Strongly recommendsscrollawayAug 2022

“a MUCH BETTER version of a similar point was outlined by Bert Hubert”

Explains why specialization and offshoring kill innovation and expertise.

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I quite like Jonathan Blow. I think this talk is kind of poor though, I remember watching it a couple of years ago in its full context (linked in the youtube description: link ). IIRC it had a bit of a "kids these days" / "they don't make 'em like they used to" feel to it. It's not untrue , but it doesn't really explain anything. IMO, a MUCH BETTER version of a similar point was outlined by Bert Hubert in this article: link - How Tech Loses Out over at Companies, Countries and Continents (Video version: this video ) In short, this goes beyond software; it's in general about why the incentives around specialization and outsourcing/offshoring cause innovation and expertise to die out. Bert Hubert takes the example of toasters, but it's of course very generalizable: > The problem is that this is not just a toaster problem. This is a continental problem. All over Europe, this is happening simultaneously, where we’re saying, look, we’re not that much into actually building things anymore. > So we’re just getting everyone else to build stuff for us. [...] We’re just thinking about things and then telling some other people how to do their stuff. > In the end, you cannot survive if all you create is intellectual property.

in “Jonathan Blow: Software Is in Decline” · view on HN
Strongly recommendsscrollawayAug 2022

“a MUCH BETTER version of a similar point was outlined by Bert Hubert”

Explains why specialization and offshoring kill innovation and expertise.

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I quite like Jonathan Blow. I think the talk mentioned in this post is kind of poor though, I remember watching it a couple of years ago in its full context ( link ). IIRC it had a bit of a "kids these days" / "they don't make 'em like they used to" feel to it. It's not untrue, but it doesn't really explain anything. IMO, a MUCH BETTER version of a similar point was outlined by Bert Hubert in this article: link - How Tech Loses Out over at Companies, Countries and Continents (Video version: this video ) In short, this goes beyond software; it's in general about why the incentives around specialization and outsourcing/offshoring cause innovation and expertise to die out. Bert Hubert takes the example of toasters, but it's of course very generalizable: > The problem is that this is not just a toaster problem. This is a continental problem. All over Europe, this is happening simultaneously, where we’re saying, look, we’re not that much into actually building things anymore. > So we’re just getting everyone else to build stuff for us. [...] We’re just thinking about things and then telling some other people how to do their stuff. > In the end, you cannot survive if all you create is intellectual property.

in “Jonathan Blow on Societal Collapse (2019)” · view on HN
Strongly recommendstextlapseJun 2024

“this excellent video talks about the problems with outsourcing everything”

Shows the dangers of outsourcing core competency, leaving a weak systems integrator.

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Probably a repost, but this excellent video talks about the problems with outsourcing everything (i.e. the L J Hart-Smith report) this video - the report itself is fairly accessible and an eye-opener on what happens when you outsource all of your core competency. The only remaining thing is a weak 'systems integrator'. And the best part is the suppliers have more leverage and less compliance/liability than you do! Because nobody even knows their name.

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RecommendsscrollawayJul 2022

“you will likely be interested in this talk by Bert Hubert”

On how companies lose deep knowledge and stop innovating.

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OP, you will likely be interested in this talk by Bert Hubert: How Tech Loses Out over at Companies, Countries and Continents: On how companies lose deep knowledge and stop innovating link As a video: this video

in “Ask HN: Is the world suffering from shallow knowledge?” · view on HN
Cites itpabs3Mar 2022

“There is an article and talk about this general process of losing technical leadership here”

Talk on how companies and regions lose technical leadership.

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There is an article and talk about this general process of losing technical leadership here: link this video and here is one about the EU & 5G outsourcing: link

in “Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor fabrication (2021)” · view on HN