89K views · Nov 20, 2013 · 18:40 · 1 HN recommender · 6 mentions · discussed 2015–2023
Deviant Ollam's DEF CON 17 talk explains how legally checking a firearm in luggage can be the most secure way to fly with valuable tech. It covers firearm transport rules and luggage locks.
Why Hacker News points people here: HN cites it as a famous talk on luggage security whenever TSA keys or baggage theft come up.
“First heard about this at DEFCON at a great presentation titled: Packing and the Friendly Skies.”HN comment, 2022
“First heard about this at DEFCON at a great presentation titled: Packing and the Friendly Skies.”
Great presentation on securing luggage by packing a firearm.
First heard about this at DEFCON at a great presentation titled: Packing and the Friendly Skies. [0] He makes a great case for keeping your laptop with your gun as the only way to guarantee its physical security. [0] this video
Source for commenter's understanding of luggage tagging rules.
I was under the impression that airlines/TSA can't anyway mark your luggage even if it contains firearms. Some airlines give you a tag, but you are suppose to put that inside your luggage, but I might be wrong about this or my info might be very old. I'm basing most of my stuff on this video this video
“There was a talk on this at DEFCON 17”
DEFCON talk on using firearm rules to secure luggage.
Another option is to start flying with something that qualifies as a 'firearm' in your luggage. Such requires actual proper locks that only you can open. There was a talk on this at DEFCON 17 this video Obviously, this only works in the US. Other countries will have different laws on the ownership and transport of firearms.
“Deviant Ollam gave an (in)famous talk [2] about this at Defcon.”
Talk on firearm legal definition and locks in luggage.
I don’t think you have to use a TSA lock on luggage with a firearm [1]. If it meets the legal definition of a “firearm” you trigger (get it?) the TSA rules that allow you to use a non-joke lock. Since this includes just the legal firearm you don’t even have to carry an actual gun to prevent the TSA from sniffing your undies. Deviant Ollam gave an (in)famous talk [2] about this at Defcon. [1]: link [2]: this video
“Deviant Ollam's famous talk on the subject”
Famous talk on checking a firearm to protect luggage.
> baggage getting lost One way to make the airlines care more about your luggage and make it highly unlikely for them to lose it is to check a firearm as described in Deviant Ollam's famous talk on the subject: this video
Packing in the friendly skies DEFCON 17 this video But I would probably also want a lawyer on retainer if venturing into the minefield of the Northeast USA.
