A hip-hop music video from EconStories in which Keynes and Hayek rap-battle over how to handle recessions and government spending. It is the second round after the first rap battle.
Why Hacker News points people here: Offered as a quick, entertaining primer on Keynesian versus Austrian economics, especially for newcomers to Hayek.
“this throwback to the 2008 crisis is an easily consumed primer on Keynes vs Hayek”HN comment, 2024
“the Hayekian view is well explained by these two videos”
Explains the Hayekian view in contrast to Keynes.
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You take the Keynesian view. It's difficult to discuss this in more than a soundbite, but the Hayekian view is well explained by these two videos: linkthis video Well worth watching if you haven't seen them. In short, the opposite/Hayekian view contends that taxation is seizure of resources from profitable/efficient entities and redistribution towards unprofitable/inefficient entities. We saw this in extremis in the bank bailout, and more controversially in microcosm with individual redistribution. If you accept this -- that "profitable" correlates with "efficient", and conversely, though the correlation is not perfect -- then taxation is not a Robin Hood sort of thing that increases well being, but rather a move that ties the legs of the efficient sectors of the economy -- those that can post a profit even in tough times -- to those that are already underwater.
RecommendsnickikDec 2012
“Watch this modern Rap-Video of Hayek vs. Keynes and listen closly when the talk about the war.”
Rap shows Hayek's view of war and the New Deal.
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You have very strang opinions. One the one hand you speak well of hayke on the other point you use the exact opposit of what hayek belived to explain the recovery from the great depression. I dont want to go into the hold Great Depression discussion, I just wanted to point out that hayek would have made the argument that the New Deal made the GD much longer, same with the WW2. The idea that a war can help the economy would made hayek cry. Watch this modern Rap-Video of Hayek vs. Keynes and listen closly when the talk about the war. this video
RecommendssmoyerApr 2015
“Another little treat - Keynes and Hayek discussing the 2008 crisis in the US”
Keynes and Hayek debate the 2008 crisis.
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I don't always agree with him but I always enjoy reading Hayek's writing. Another little treat - Keynes and Hayek discussing the 2008 crisis in the US: this video
RecommendsmilesJun 2020
“For those new to Hayek, here is an entertaining overview”
Entertaining overview for newcomers to Hayek.
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There have been a number of Hayek posts, though sadly few of them gained much traction: link For those new to Hayek, here is an entertaining overview: Fear the Boom and Bust: Keynes vs. Hayek link Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek this video
Recommendshayst4ckMar 2024
“an easily consumed primer on Keynes vs Hayek”
Fun, quick primer on Keynes versus Hayek.
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If anyone wants a fun quick summary of Hayek this throwback to the 2008 crisis is an easily consumed primer on Keynes vs Hayek: Keynes vs Hayek rap battle 1: link Keynes vs Hayek rap battle 2: this video
Cites itolalondeMay 2011
“it all boils down to Keynesian economics[1] (steaming rant) vs Austrian economics[2] (this submission)”
Rap-battle summary of Keynesian versus Austrian economics.
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I'm oversimplifying here, but it all boils down to Keynesian economics[1] (steaming rant) vs Austrian economics[2] (this submission) if anyone wants to dig deeper in the subject. tl;dr: this video [1] link [2] link
Cites itcaseysoftwareNov 2015
“For another look at it, check out the Keynes vs Hayek rap battle”
Offered as another take on Keynesian economics.
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"Standard new Keynesian macroeconomics essentially abstracts away from most of what is important in macroeconomics." Yes, that has been the criticism for decades. There is nothing new here. The only time Keynesian economics has "fixed" an economy was WW2 when we (the US, specifically) had full employment because of the draft and all of our competition had been literally flattened and/or killed. For another look at it, check out the Keynes vs Hayek rap battle: this video
Cites itbhauerMay 2016
“The economy is us. We don't need a mechanic. Put away the wrenches—the economy's organic.”
Quotes a lyric to support a free-market point.
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Good point. "The economy is us. We don't need a mechanic. Put away the wrenches—the economy's organic." this video
Cites itmilesJan 2020
“it is our slavish devotion to Keynesianism that promises a continued future of boom and bust cycles”
Cited to support anti-Keynesian argument.
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On the contrary; it is our slavish devotion to Keynesianism that promises a continued future of boom and bust cycles: Keynes vs. Hayek, Round 1 & 2: linkthis video
Cites itpassion__desireSep 2023
Offered as loosely relevant to a Sokal-hoax question.
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Well is it possible that an Alan Sokal kind of trick be pulled of in economics if it is a social science. Relevant : linkthis video
