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38 Times President Trump Has Condemned Racism and White Supremacy

826K views · Oct 28, 2020 · 4:58 · 0 HN recommenders · 11 mentions · discussed 2020–2022

A campaign-produced compilation of clips of Donald Trump condemning racism and white supremacy on 38 occasions, published in 2020.

Why Hacker News points people here: Linked in election-era threads as evidence in arguments over whether Trump disavowed white supremacist groups.

What Hacker News said 11

Cites itConsultant32452Nov 2020

“Here's a compilation of 38 times he condemned racism and white supremacy.”

Compilation of Trump condemning racism and white supremacy

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The fine people video you watched was a cleverly edited hoax. In the same breath, without prompting he said he wasn't referring to neo-nazis or white supremacists who should be "condemned totally.". Here's the proof: link Here's a compilation of 38 times he condemned racism and white supremacy. this video I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it appears you've been systematically misled on this issue.

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Cites ittrumpawayNov 2020

“He disavowed white supremacists, KKK, Proud Boys, etc. several times”

Trump disavowing white supremacist groups including Proud Boys

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He disavowed white supremacists, KKK, Proud Boys, etc. several times: this video (4:10 is him denouncing Proud Boys, for example) link

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Cites ittrumpawayNov 2020

“You can see Donald Trump denouncing Proud Boys here”

Shows Trump denouncing the Proud Boys

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I agree that "stand by" does sound problematic, but I would let is slide as a slip up, given that the moderator asked whether he will tell them to "stand down" -- it's an easy mistake to make (and talking about slip ups, Joe Biden has more than enough of them as well). You can see Donald Trump denouncing Proud Boys here: this video

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Cites ittrumpawayNov 2020

“He disavowed white supremacists, KKK, Proud Boys, etc. several times”

Trump disavowing white supremacist groups including Proud Boys

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He disavowed white supremacists, KKK, Proud Boys, etc. several times: this video (4:10 is him denouncing Proud Boys, for example) link

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Cites itdjsumdogNov 2020

“Denouncing white suprmacy”

Compilation of Trump denouncing white supremacy

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Anti-fascism are literally committing acts of fascism. Denouncing white suprmacy: this video link link The "Fine people" myth (when you view the entire thing in context): link The entry ban: Did you see what happened to that French school teacher? Have you read The Strange Death of Europe? It doesn't matter though. In that fine people video, even when people were presenting with the reality from the carefully selected video clips they had heard about, they still wouldn't accept it. The media has damaged our psyche. There are not peaceful protests in Portland right now. There have been riots for months! I use to live in Seattle, and the media did a very poor job of covering CHAZ. I made this: link Antifa is not an idea, it is real. There are cell groups who have done terrible things and the media paints them as peaceful protestors. They're not. They're straight up descendants of The Students for Democratic Society and The Weather Underground ideologically. The protestors in Portland are Domestic Terrorist. The National Guard was finally called in this week to stop them from burning things down. Suppressing speech: that's fascistic Getting people fired because they support a politician you don't like: that's fascistic Calling everyone you don't like a racist or white supremacists: that's fascistic The hard left, big tech and big media are the fascists.

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Cites itabc-xyzNov 2020

“Here’s a video compilation of Trump denouncing racism and white supremacy on 38 different occasions”

Compilation of 38 occasions Trump denounced racism

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Here’s a video compilation of Trump denouncing racism and white supremacy on 38 different occasions ( this video ).

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Cites itqPM9l3XJrFNov 2020

“how much have Trump's many disavowals of the far right shifted your perception that he's in bed with them?”

Example of repeated disavowals not changing perceptions

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>there is no correlation between when a Dem condemned violent protest and whether they won their election Even assuming this unsupported claim is true, it's not necessarily relevant because correlation isn't the same as causation. For example, it could be that Dems are pretty good at reading their local electorate, and left-leaning areas are more tolerant of violent protest in the name of left causes. So Dems in lefty areas did not condemn violence, whereas Dems in swing areas did condemn violence. If this was true, ceteris paribus you would expect Dems who condemn violence to be more likely to lose, just because they're running more competitive races. BTW, I think people are unfortunately quite tribal nowadays, and tend to assume that extremists have control of the other side even if that's not the case. And disavowing extremists is only partially effective at changing that perception. Think about it--how much have Trump's many disavowals of the far right shifted your perception that he's in bed with them? this video Probably not much. >So either that’s not actually the critical factor, or it’s not possible to control for this factor in any sort of reliable way. One failed attempt doesn't mean that something can't be done.

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Cites ittextgelNov 2020

“38 Times President Trump Has Condemned Racism and White Supremacy”

Evidence against a fact-check claim about Trump's condemnations

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link > Mixture: During the debate, Trump was repeatedly asked and invited to explicitly and clearly condemn white supremacists, and he did not do that. He did condemn it; it literally follows up with "Sure, I'm willing to do that." And for added bs this video 38 Times President Trump Has Condemned Racism and White Supremacy ------------------------- link > Mostly False: Biden said "Now we have over 120 million dead from COVID" at the Pennsylvania event in apparent reference to U.S. fatalities. There is literally a video of him in the article doing it ------------------------- Took literally a couple of seconds to find evidence.

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Cites itshripadkDec 2020

“He condemned white supremacy 38 times. Not once. Not twice. 38 times.”

Evidence Trump condemned white supremacy many times

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> He condemned white supremacy only after receiving more backlash than he expected He condemned white supremacy 38 times. Not once. Not twice. 38 times. There are clips of him condemning white supremacy as way back as 2000s when he wanted to run for President through a Reform Party ticket but instead decided to abort it last minute when he came to know that David Duke joined the party. Please tell me why Trump needs to condemn white supremacy 38 times and still be called a racist while Biden gets a free pass? Let us be frank here: you have an opinion of Trump based on what media has portrayed him to be rather than actually having done your own research. Or maybe you just hate the guy which is perfectly fine. But you can't say that he only condemned when he received backlash. He literally quit a Presidential race when he came to know that David Duke joined the Reform Party for Heaven's sake! What more condemnation do you need? this video > The old adage is than when white supremacists believe you’re one of them you might as well be. Biden sang eulogies for an actual KKK recruiter who was incidentally also a Democrat Senator and not one media house took Biden to task the way they did Trump. Heck, even the current Vice President Kamala Harris called Biden a racist on the Presidential Primary Stage! Then she happily went along with him as the VP candidate! But yes, orange man bad!

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Cites itsn_masterJan 2021

Offered as counter to claims of racism

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"jewish": Trump's own daughter and grandsons are Jewish. "black, hispanic": this video "anti-lgbt": Trump himself attended several gay marriages in public way before running for president, late 90s/early 00s. None of the examples Amazon or Twitter gave were anti-LGBT. Trump got 72 million votes. Statistically, there is 7 million LGBT atleast who voted for him.

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Cites itbrigandishMar 2022

“I can't believe anyone still brings up Trump and a "refusal" to denounce white supremacy.”

Offered as proof Trump did denounce white supremacy

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I can't believe anyone still brings up Trump and a "refusal" to denounce white supremacy. It seems to me that there were so many opportunities to criticise Trump - as there is for any president, to be fair - that I have to wonder why the media persists in undermining their own reputation with this kind of nonsense instead, but it must be because it works. this video

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