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Vader's Redemption: The Imperial March in a Major Key

3.6M views · Nov 20, 2015 · 3:03 · 0 HN recommenders · 3 mentions · discussed 2020–2024

A complete rendition of John Williams' Imperial March rearranged in a major key. The change turns Vader's menacing theme into something triumphant.

Why Hacker News points people here: Used as a counter-example in music theory discussions to show how mode changes a melody's mood.

“The canonical video on the subject”HN comment, 2024

What Hacker News said 3

Cites itdragontamerFeb 2020

“Here's the Imperial Death March played in a Major-scale, instead of a minor scale.”

Counter-example of Imperial March in a major key

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Though you asked for an example... but maybe its best to show a counter-example instead? Here's the Imperial Death March played in a Major-scale, instead of a minor scale. this video If everything was in an 8-note (no accidental, transpositions only) measure, they'd sound like "Vader's redemption". To sound sad, you MUST shift to a minor key. A minor key has sharps and flats to create tension. Any "sad sounding" song cannot be properly played in a major key.

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Cites itKyeJul 2024

“It changes the mood from "this is the bad guys!" to something more positive and triumphant.”

Imperial March in major mode changes mood to triumphant

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The canonical video on the subject: link Some people will naively say "All music has pentatonic! Universal!" but ignore vital cultural context. One example in the video is ragas: they can look a lot like Western scales and modes, but they have a time and context. Western music also has a time and context, but it doesn't stand out as much to us unless someone goes full ham breaking that context like with the Imperial March in a Major mode: this video It changes the mood from "this is the bad guys!" to something more positive and triumphant.

Joke082349872349872Oct 2020
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